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Posted Thu Oct 3, 2013, 12:14pm
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Well, perhaps not the first but probably the first celebrity coffee geek. I heard on the radio that Beethoven was a bit obsessive with regard to coffee. He counted out 60 beans every time he had a brew.

Sounds perfectly normal behaviour but I'm glad I've got a pocket scales. I counted out 60 of my Monsooned Malabar and 60 of my E. Haraar and got approx. 8g and 7g respectively.

I guess coffee from Ethiopia was available in the 18th Century, but what was the "Glass coffee contraption" mentioned in this blog? Click Here (lvbandmore.blogspot.co.uk)
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Posted Thu Oct 3, 2013, 9:03pm
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Wayyyy back around the middle of the last century, there used to be a radio advertisement for Nescafe instant coffee, just a short catchy jingle stating:  "You get 43 beans in every cup of Nescafe instant coffee."  

Click Here (forgottenhits60s.blogspot.com)

Now even though I was just a little kid at the time and certainly a long way off from becoming a coffeeholic, that little jingle still pops into my head from time to time when I'm scooping beans into the grinder.  I'm thinking I was somewhere around 10 or 12 years old when that radio spot ended.  It's strange that I should still find thoughts of it as part of my coffee making ritual.

Anyway, the standard coffee scoop I use for measuring averages about 86 beans across the level.  A normal morning pot in my Technivorm uses 3 scoops, and water is measured to the 8 cup line.  That means one coffee cup amount in the European Technivorm measure contains 32.25 beans.  But, since most of my coffee cups are at least a normal cup, that means I only get 4 servings out of the morning pot, which means 64.5 beans are needed for an average cup.  Not too far off from that figure of 60 beans.  Looking back at that Nescafe promise of 43 beans in every cup, it just shows that you're going to get a pretty weak cup of mediocre coffee with that recipe for their instant swill.

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Posted Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:57pm
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JS Bach might not have been a Coffeegeek, definitely he wrote the "Kaffeekantate":

Click Here (en.wikipedia.org)

about 1734! to describe this addiction....
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Posted Fri Oct 4, 2013, 4:03am
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Is it safe to assume that if Beethoven were alive, with access to today's espresso gear, he would invest in a Mazzer "C" Major and Nuova Simonelli Musica? Groan.
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Posted Wed Oct 9, 2013, 9:28pm
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My understanding is that this work was a protest piece.  Apparently the brewers were feeling the pinch from the popularity of coffee and prevailed upon the government to institute a ban or at least severe restrictions on coffee.  J.S. Bach loved his coffee and found this intolerable.  I believe his Coffee Cantata brought about a lifting of the ban.

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outrigger Said:

JS Bach might not h ave been a Coffeegeek, definitely he wrote the "Kaffeekantate":

Click Here (en.wikipedia.org)

about 1734! to describe this addiction....

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Posted Sat Oct 12, 2013, 5:26pm
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Snaxx Said:

Wayyyy back around the middle of the last century, there used to be a radio advertisement for Nescafe instant coffee, just a short catchy jingle stating:  "You get 43 beans in every cup of Nescafe instant coffee."  

Click Here (forgottenhits60s.blogspot.com)
Ken

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The only tv ad I remember is the one for Pepsodent http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/422100.html

I'll guess we'll never know what Beethoven's "glass coffee contraption" was. Early press pots were made of metal, I believe.
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Posted Sun Oct 13, 2013, 8:46am
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@ BertieDoe,

Sorry for drifting away from your question;

this is the original hand written page from LvBeethoven where he wrote about the "steam machine" :

Click Here (www.beethoven-haus-bonn.de)

According to other researcher, this should be the Coffee-Machine (see Fig. 14 in the page) Beethoven wrote about:

http://dingler.culture.hu-berlin.de/article/pj013/ar013095

Which was given a Patent in London 1822.
Maybe "Glass coffee contraption" is the interpretation of that machine?

Anton Schindler, biographer of L v Beethoven, wrote on page 264 about his 60 beans habit.
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Posted Sun Oct 13, 2013, 11:15am
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outrigger Said:

@ BertieDoe,

http://dingler.culture.hu-berlin.de/article/pj013/ar013095
Which was given a Patent in London 1822.
Maybe "Glass coffee contraption" is the interpretation of that machine?

Posted October 13, 2013 link

Nice bit of research and thank goodness for Google Translator :) You maybe right, it looks a likely contender. It seems a complicated device when compared with the humble Press Pot, which was invented many years later :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_press
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