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schiarelli
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 5:34am
Subject: Can I have your opinion on this sale?
 

Hi, I am new to this forum.  I have been progressively getting more and more into the coffee scene and I think its time to buy a real espresso machine!  

What do you guys think of this sale?  The seller is asking $600, which is a bit more than I was hoping to spend, but it comes with the Rocky and looks like I wont need to buy anything else, is that right?  The seller states that it's lightly used and has been kept clean and cared for.  I was looking for a Silvia, but this looks nice too, maybe even nicer.  Any of your expert advice would be really great.  

Thanks,
Sal

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Burner0000
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 6:12am
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Go for it. :)  The Isomac Venus goes for $800 new + The Rocky $350 new.  Your getting it all for about half the price used plus about another $100 in accessories.  I don't have any hands on but 1st line reads it has good internals.  

Isomac Venus Espresso Machine
Rancilio Rocky Espresso Grinder

Has a few things over the Silvia.  Pressure Gauge, Thermal fuse to stop the boiler from overheating if it run's dry, + higher wattage element so you will get slightly faster recovery over the Silvia.  

If you decide to buy I'd buy new burrs for the Silvia.  This is a good starter setup.
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schiarelli
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 6:36am
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Burner0000, thanks for the quick reply.  I am now more confident and will pursue the sale.

If anyone else has hands on experience with this machine, please chime in.
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 10:15am
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schiarelli Said:

Burner0000, thanks for the quick reply.  I am now more confident and will pursue the sale.

If anyone else has hands on experience with this machine, please chime in.

Posted October 8, 2013 link

Quite a bit, I reviewed one perhaps 6 years ago,

http://coffeetime.wikidot.com/isomac-venus

Link leads to spec sheet, detailed review and photos, including internals....I am of course far more critical of machines nowadays, but don't tend to review machines in that bottom end price bracket any more..

enjoy

Dave
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Posted Tue Oct 8, 2013, 12:17pm
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Looks like a nice machine, if I get my hand on it I'll let you guys know.  I was also worried about resale value, but it looks like that is not an issue here.
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Posted Wed Oct 9, 2013, 7:53am
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I have been using the Isomac Venus daily for 6+ years now. It's a solid quality built machine and much better behaved than Silvia for temperature and water dispersion. Great deal there, go for it!

On the Rocky, check that the threads are tight on the burr adjustment. These are somewhat delicate and when there is play ,  grind consistency and quality suffers.  (there is a 'fix'  using plumbers tape)
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Posted Wed Oct 9, 2013, 7:19pm
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I got it! I played with it all evening, seems like a great machine.  But I am having issues with the naked portafilter, after a few seconds into the brew, it starts squirting out of the sides!  Anyone encounter this ever?
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Posted Thu Oct 10, 2013, 4:22am
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Also, the puck isn't much of a puck but more of a soupy mess...
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Posted Thu Oct 10, 2013, 4:49am
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That's why the naked portafilter is awesome! :)  It's shows you what you did wrong.  The spritzing came from areas in the puck with too little resistance.  If you don't evenly distribute and evenly tamp you coffee this will happen.  In your case there probably wasn't enough coffee around the sides of the basket.  Also purge steam from the portafilter just before you pull. Too much steam built up from a long machine warm up or if you brewing right after steaming the back pressure of steam can obliterate your puck! Just purge water before your brew This will rinse your shower screen too. :)  

  1. Evenly distribute the correct amount of coffee for the basket you are using.  (double basket = 14-15 g)
  2. Firmly and evenly leveled tamp
  3. Purge excess steam from the group for 1-3 seconds, lock in the portafilter and brew.

For tamping I find the "nutating tamp" is a great technique. I almost never get bad extraction with this.
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Posted Thu Oct 10, 2013, 5:28am
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No it wasnt spritzing from the bottom of the pod, it was leaking from around the seal between the top of the pod and the machine
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