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Josephhh
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Posted Wed Sep 18, 2013, 3:50am
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Hi All,

I am planning to start a coffee cart business, And I am looking for information regarding the whole system. ( I am a mechanical engineer I have been working with a Protuguese coffee brand to install machines and planning of maintenance)

Well, I love coffee and serving people and specilally coffee. So I had this ides a long time ago and I was thinking I was the first one that had this idea ( coz in my country there is no coffee cart) but when I start looking for this I ve found myself really outstripped.

I am planning to have 2 group spring lever machine running on propane. and RV batteries with DC to AC converter to run the grinder and refrigerator...
I am looking to install solar panels to charge the batteries during duty to give more autonomy.
I am not sure if its better to use a Aprillia Ape or a small van like Altocafe have ( image in www.altocafe.com).

Please give more information about this business, I am all ears.

Many thanks

Youssef
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Posted Wed Sep 18, 2013, 6:09am
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I was thinking...47 views and no replies...surely something could be said?  But now, after reading your post...I'm understand...it's not really clear what your question/s is/are.  Can you be more specific about what you want to know?  Or maybe you just need help from someone already in the cart business?

 
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Posted Wed Sep 18, 2013, 8:20am
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Well

I have two questions?

If the solar panels are good to add more autonomy to the batteries?
And what are the things I need to know to choose between treewheel moto like Aprillia Ape50 or the small van like Altocafe have ( image in www.altocafe.com).

And I am looking for advice and help about the cart business. things that I should take care of.
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Posted Wed Sep 18, 2013, 9:49am
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My personal feeling is that solar cells will not produce enough to make much of a difference but I do not play with them. I do know that I can buy a pretty low power unit, like less than 1 watt but it is so large that you would need to use it like an umbrella .

The vehicle to use? I think it would come down to what you can get your hands on and how much weight you need to carry and how much space you need. LP powered machine and lever operated will cut down on the electrical needs for sure. A couple of large RV batteries likely will do the job depending on how much your grinder etc draw and if you will need any lights.

In the U.S. you would also need a sink, fresh water tank, water heater and a holding tank for the soiled water from the sink. I know you are not in the U.S. but a sink is a mandatory thing to keep your equipment clean.

 
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Posted Wed Sep 18, 2013, 10:17am
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Thanks for the advice.

Of course I will need a sink and fresh water tank and holding tank for the grey water, but what is the use of the Water heater if i can get hot water from the machine?
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Posted Wed Sep 18, 2013, 2:25pm
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Washing dishes and hands.

 
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Posted Thu Sep 19, 2013, 4:41am
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I have another question.

I need to serve Americain coffee. I have to buy a machine for that or I can use the Espresso machine?
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Posted Thu Sep 19, 2013, 5:35am
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americano?  Is that what you mean?  It's espresso diluted with hot water.  A wonderful alternative to drip, so in either case (drip v americano) you don't need another machine.

 
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Posted Thu Sep 19, 2013, 6:59am
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Yes Americano.

So just I have to make espresso and add hot water. usually espresso is 25ml how much hot water do i need to add? the same amount?

Is it as good as driped coffee with filter machine?
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Posted Thu Sep 19, 2013, 7:29am
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I personally think it's better than drip filter, and truth be told, is probably more akin to press pot than drip. You might want to consider I pretty much only drink espresso (without and with milk) and press pot, when viewing my opinion.  When my Mom comes to visit, I pull her a double into an 11 oz cup, then flush the group clean, and then top off her cup with water from the group. So, we're talking about a dilution of 1 part espresso to about 3 parts water.  Some people will mostly fill the cup with hot water first, then pull the shot into it.  This is typically called a long black.  Supposedly, the crema is preserved better that way.  I've never tried it, but suspect there's not much of a real difference. You might want to try both and see if you prefer one over the other.

 
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