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Carabica
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Posted Tue Jul 30, 2013, 3:12am
Subject: Alterra Coffee
 

So I'm stuck at the airport and desperate for caffeine. I went to the Alterra counter and ordered a double shot.

O M G . AWFUL.

What struck me the most was that the cup was sour. What happened?
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Posted Tue Jul 30, 2013, 7:05pm
Subject: Re: Alterra Coffee
 

uh..... coffee shop coffee????

 
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Posted Wed Jul 31, 2013, 8:27am
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I'm asking how the hell you make a sour cup of coffee? Until yesterday I'd never had sour coffee. I'm 50 years old.
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Posted Wed Jul 31, 2013, 9:04am
Subject: Re: Alterra Coffee
 

Carabica Said:

I'm asking how the hell you make a sour cup of coffee? Until yesterday I'd never had sour coffee. I'm 50 years old.

Posted July 31, 2013 link

Please keep the invective in check.

The search tool is your friend. A search using the keyword of sour yields dozens of posts elucidating the answer. If you can't find the search link (at the top of every forums page), here's a link that will do the search for you:

Click Here (www.coffeegeek.com)

If you're too impatient to read through the posts, here's the short answer:
  1. The type of bean. Some varieties from certain regions are more acidic or "brighter" than others. That acidity can be construed as sour.
  2. The degree of roast. A light roast will be more likely to have a acidic/sour flavor.
  3. Brewing. Sour flavors are a product of under extraction.
  4. Underextraction can result from the coffee particles not being exposed to the water for sufficient time. That can be because the particles are too large, and brewed for too short of a time.
  5. Too-low brew temperature will result in under extraction.

As with everything coffee, there are many variables, and there may be more than one at work in any given situation.

Cheers,
Dana

 
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Posted Wed Jul 31, 2013, 4:21pm
Subject: Re: Alterra Coffee
 

Alterra had partnered with Mars Drinks to help expand the brand.  That relationship is ending.  The real Alterra is changing its name to Collectivo.  I don't know if that has anything to do with the quality.

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Posted Fri Aug 2, 2013, 6:19am
Subject: Re: Alterra Coffee
 

dana_leighton Said:

Please keep the invective in check.


Dana

Posted July 31, 2013 link

Totally off topic because that made me blink. I work on many online sites that moderate language to the extreme (Sometimes to the point I hate being the language police.) and that is one word/phrase I have never had someone comment about.

Made me actually look up the dictionary definition of invective.

in·vec·tive

noun
  1.  vehement or violent denunciation, censure, or reproach.
  2. a railing accusation; vituperation.
  3. an insulting or abusive word or expression.


So okay, I"ll give you half of number 1.

 
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