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regarton
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Posted Wed Jul 31, 2013, 10:34pm
Subject: Wahanalatte.com?
 

(I was doing some online shopping for espresso machines, and I ran across a website wahanalatte.com with prices that seem too good to be true; e.g., the Expobar Brewtus IV with Vibration Pump (Click Here (wahanalatte.com)).  Has anyone heard of this website or had any experience with it?
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Posted Thu Aug 1, 2013, 5:15am
Subject: Re: Wahanalatte.com?
 

We have seen many of these types of sites in the past. For example:
http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/general/598707
http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/606576
http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/618460

This one may or may not be legitimate, but I would seriously hesitate doing business with a company located in Indonesia and which promises too-good-to-be-true pricing.

 
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Posted Thu Aug 1, 2013, 6:46am
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Thanks for the confirmation, Dana.  I had search for "wahana" on the coffeegeek forums, but with no results.  Had I searched for "Indonesia" instead, then perhaps I wouldn't have needed to ask.  Maybe someone will see this thread and exert due caution? Thanks again!
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Posted Fri Aug 2, 2013, 3:44am
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ordering on new sites is really not a thing i do unless it has a good feedback from people i know. we are talking about coffee hear, so it would be best to be cautious :).

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Posted Sat Aug 3, 2013, 10:05am
Subject: Re: Wahanalatte.com?
 

There is a reason that the saying "if it too good to be true, it usually is" and "a fool and his money are soon parted" are still alive and kicking and releivnt today. Scams abound on the net and there is no special price from a manufacturer to a vendor for bulk purchases etc, Most vendors sell at a similar markup so if someone has a FANTASTIC  price, have SERIOUS doubts.

When I was in retail the markup we used were along the lines ofd
less than two dollars, double our cost
up to $20 add about 60%
up to $50 add about 40%
$100 25%
higher and it was a sliding scale but over $1K and it was down to 2% or so.

I can not say that anyone else uses that guidline, but I suspect that there is not a lot of difference, the break points and percentages can and likely are different but retail does not make a killing on large ticket items and the percentage of profit for dollar invested goes down as the items price goes up. YMMV!

 
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Posted Mon Aug 5, 2013, 4:59am
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Definitely Google around a little bit and see if anybody else has had experiences with them. And be very careful incase reviews are false/artificial. Judging by the location and name of the site, I would be quite sceptical and stick to something else.
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Posted Mon Aug 5, 2013, 6:04pm
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@calblacksmith: I've not had much experience in retail, so the information regarding the possible mark up (and conversely discounts) that one can expect from a retailer selling a prosumer machine is good to know. Thanks!

@Flori and Coffeefrank: Thanks for chiming in.  It's good to hear other coffee lovers echoing my suspicions! :)
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Posted Sun Feb 2, 2014, 10:24pm
Subject: Re: Wahanalatte.com?       SCAM ALERT!!!!!!
 

I also stumbled across this website and it was extremely cheap. Like half the price of other websites. It looked fishy but I scoured the internet for a review. Good, bad or ugly.. and found nothing. Which is why I am writing this review. I called my credit card company just to see if it would be possible for them to scam me. They assured me that I was covered. So I figured "what do I have to loose?" So I put the very cheaply priced espresso machine and grinder in my cart and began to check out. They asked for my name, email address, phone number, shipping and billing address and a passcode. I put in an email address I rarely use and gave them a very generic passcode. But I did give my phone number, name and address (ugh.. kicking myself) and then received this:

THANKS FOR YOUR ORDER!
Your order was sent to us but requires payment before it can be completed.

Once you've provided payment, your order will be completed. The outstanding balance of your order is $1,366.40 USD. Instructions on how to pay for your order are shown below:
Payment By Wire/Telegraphic Transfer

Payment by Bank Transfer should be made
payable to Owner Account.

Beneficiary Name : SATRIA PERMANA
Beneficiary Number : 0286478650
Beneficiary Address : Jl. Brigjen Katamso No.43

Bank Name : PT. Bank Negara Indonesia(Persero)Tbk.
Branch : GEDUNG BNI
Bank Address : Jl. Jenderal Sudirman Kav. 1, Jakarta 10220, Indonesia
BIC/Swift Code : BNINIDJA

Make sure you always quote the order number that you have received in any bank transfer. Please email copy of the transfer documents to cashier@wahanalatte.com as soon as this transaction is arranged with your bank.

Thank You for Shopping with WAHANA LATTE GROUP

Best Regards,

WahanaLatte.Com



Ya, that sounds legit !!!!!!

A little nervous that they have my name, address and phone number.
To answer my own question… what do I have to loose? MY IDENTITY- DUH
Learn from my mistake… be warned- this website is a scam

Has anyone on here had their identity stolen from just name, phone, address, email?  Is that possible?
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hzad
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Posted Mon Feb 3, 2014, 12:21pm
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Sorry that happened to you. There are way too many of these sketchy sites all over the place now.
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Posted Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:27pm
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When it seems too good to be true then it is often too good to be true.. ;)
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