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Posted Sat Jul 27, 2013, 8:50pm
Subject: Roasting Plant, Javabot system--New premium coffee shop in a bankrupt city
 

On a trip to the Detroit area for a day this past week, I picked up one of the freebie local entertainment weeklies to read during a bagel with a schmear, lunch.  A story in there about a new coffee shop in Downtown Detroit called Roasting Plant grabbed my attention, promoting what seems to be a gimmicky, likely a pricey way, to roast, store, and brew coffee for customers.  

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Posted Sun Jul 28, 2013, 6:22am
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So it is flashy parlor tricks with their roaster and vacuum system that moves the beans around the store. They looked at me like I had three heads when I asked how long the beans had been roasted. Sure enough the spro was made with gassy beans in a super auto by a person who now to run the cash register and push the right buttons on the coffee gear. If your downtown Motown you better off to get a cup of Timmy's brewed and leave some coin in your pocket.

I was so hopefull but as they say " man lives in hope, then dies in despair."

 
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Posted Sun Jul 28, 2013, 7:48am
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jwoodyu Said:

So it is flashy parlor tricks with their roaster and vacuum system that moves the beans around the store. They looked at me like I had three heads when I asked how long the beans had been roasted.

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If you go to the Javabot webpage, their claim is no longer than 48 hours.  Unfortunately, a roast must de-gas for varying amounts of time to be thoroughly at prime, always depending on the varietal and how it is roasted.  Sometimes beans are at their peak at a day or two, while a rest of almost a week provides best flavor and enjoyment.  Usually more than 48 hours is required to get to peak flavor.  And what do they do when this 48 hour period arrives and there's still most of the beans left in reserve, or if there's an unusual amount of demand and the roasted stock goes down rapidly?  You can't just roast more beans and then use them without that rest period of at least a day, often more.    

Another consideration is the roast level.  Most of the varietals I prefer, I roast to a level of just below Full City.  For standard drip coffee, this seems to provide the best flavor to me.  Going beyond this seems to destroy many of the flavor notes.  But obviously, some people will prefer lighter roasts and others will prefer a darker roast. How is this variable going to be adjusted.  I doubt they will maintain more than one roast level to offer, whatever that may be.

A final thought on this process, roasted beans are oily, and it gunks up any surfaces such as glass containers and their transfer tubes, and will start to go rancid.  How do they maintain cleanliness and freshness in the storage, and especially the tube transfer system?  

Since you've been there to sample their product, what is your opinion of the results?  Do they charge different prices depending what varietal or blend they may have to offer?  Likely you're right about a better cup at Timmies for less!!!

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Posted Sun Jul 28, 2013, 10:31am
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I don't know that I can add much besides my double was made with gassy beans. The person behind the counter had no understanding of all that you just said. I do which is why I asked and I got what I expected after seeing her expression.  The other thing is the primary guy is a mechanical engineer small wonder the machines are super auto and the delivery system is flashy

 
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