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Stangs55
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Posted Mon May 13, 2013, 12:05pm
Subject: Breville Smart Grinder or Baratza Virtuoso for Drip Only?
 

First time poster, so thanks to the community in advance.

Struggling here....I need a grinder to replace my Kitchen Aide. I don't do espresso at home and don't have plans to start. I only want it for my Technivorm...so I don't really care how fine it'll grind, but consistency and quality of the grind is extremely important. I also have a wife who doesn't care for added steps...so simplicity and ease is important ;)

My thoughts on the two after reading up on them:
Breville: I love the idea of grinding exactly what I want. My mornings are busy...I need something quick and easy. It also seems like a great idea for my wife...set the exact amount you want, press go, pour the whole basket into the filter and start er up. This will keep the waste down and the grinds fresher.

Virtuoso: The Baratza name and quality certainly needs no explaining. Waste will go up though since you cant grind exactly how much you want every time. It lacks the tech features above...but it's a Baratza...

Most every review and critique I can find online discusses their merits as an espresso grinder....but that's not what I want. I guess what I want to know is, for a medium/fine grind, will there be any difference between these two? If no, then the Breville seems like my obvious choice...but if the Virtuoso will produce a better grind for my needs, then I'll go with it.
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Posted Mon May 13, 2013, 12:52pm
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Both are good for coarse needs, but really if your only going for drip, you may as well save some money and get the Baratza Encore. Encore is more then enough for drip, and really any coarse needs. I think it's only 110-120 bucks or so.
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Posted Wed May 15, 2013, 9:59am
Subject: Re: Breville Smart Grinder or Baratza Virtuoso for Drip Only?
 

I think you will be happy with either. However, I would go with the Virtuoso, because I think the grind is going to be better and unless you plan on keeping the Beville filled with beans at all times the timer function on it is not going to be repeatable so you are going to have to weigh/measure your beans before grinding anyway. So why not go with the grinder that might be marginally better in grind quatlity?

 
Less water, more grounds.
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Posted Wed May 15, 2013, 10:34am
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I have the Breville Smart Grinder and I love it.

It does an excellent job grinding for drip coffee.  I have mine set for 7 cups and it makes just the strength I want when used with my drip coffeemaker with 10 cups of water.

It is very consistent in quantity as I check it every few days by using the coffee scoop and I always get 8 1/2 scoops.  The grind is very consistent too.  I use the grinds container but it does come with two different size portafilter holders as well.

I clean it once or twice a week which it easily done with the removable hopper which locks to hold the beans in and a removable top burr.

It wastes almost no coffee as I get less than 1/4 spoonful from burrs and chute after a week's grinding.

I have had no problems with jamming and it is fairly quiet.  At least it doesn't wake my husband up when I am making the coffee.

Seattle Coffee Gear has a video comparing the Smart Grinder with, I think, the Encore.  You might want to watch it to get a better idea of which grinder would be best for you.

Hope this helps!
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Posted Wed May 15, 2013, 11:45am
Subject: Re: Breville Smart Grinder or Baratza Virtuoso for Drip Only?
 

JaniceAnn Said:

I have the Breville Smart Grinder and I love it.

It does an excellent job grinding for drip coffee.  I have mine set for 7 cups and it makes just the strength I want when used with my drip coffeemaker with 10 cups of water.

Hope this helps!

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I have the Breville Smart Grinder.  I set mine for 5 cups for a single 11 oz. serving of coffee.  Anything less than that and I feel the cup is too weak.  As an aside, I use a Clever (however am getting a Technivorm, so the ratios will likely change as I will be making a full insulated carafe every day).

Len

 
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Posted Thu May 16, 2013, 4:20am
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Wow, you like much stronger coffee than my husband does!

I don't know if my drip machine extracts more coffee or if it is the beans or the grind but I tried to grind at the one cup setting for each cup of water and my husband said it was too strong for him.  At the current setting it is just a little weak for my taste but I make it to suit him and just add a little less milk to mine.

It is a really nice grinder for the money.
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Posted Thu May 16, 2013, 8:29am
Subject: Re: Breville Smart Grinder or Baratza Virtuoso for Drip Only?
 

JaniceAnn Said:

Wow, you like much stronger coffee than my husband does!

I don't know if my drip machine extracts more coffee or if it is the beans or the grind but I tried to grind at the one cup setting for each cup of water and my husband said it was too strong for him.  At the current setting it is just a little weak for my taste but I make it to suit him and just add a little less milk to mine.

It is a really nice grinder for the money.

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I guess I overdose with the coffee grinds.  

The only issue I have had with the grinder is when attempting to grind french roast (the beans have a habit of "sticking" in bean holder and not dropping into grinder"; or when attempting to grind for espresso and using light roasted beans (the grinder will jam).

Len

 
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Posted Thu May 16, 2013, 9:33am
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I had ordered the Smart Grinder from QVC and it was taking a very long time to ship so they told me to just reorder and they would cancel the first order.

Of course, as soon as I did the reorder the first order shipped, so I got two.

The first one did give me a few jamming problems.  I boxed it back up and tried the second grinder.  It worked fine and has, knock on wood, never jammed at all.

I returned the first one as I was only going to keep one, but I am glad it gave me problems right away so I knew that was the one to return.

I don't know what the problem was.  I thought it might have been a flaw in the burrs but that is just a guess.

I do clean the grinder a couple of times a week but I don't know if that is helping to prevent jamming or not.
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Posted Sat May 18, 2013, 9:46pm
Subject: Re: Breville Smart Grinder or Baratza Virtuoso for Drip Only?
 

Had bought the Breville Smart Grinder about 60 days ago and had a jamming problem also. I home roast my own coffee and it jammed with some lighter roast beans. I took the hopper off and took out the upper burr and got the bean dis-lodged. Put it all back together and it had a horrible internal noise, almost like some gears were stripped. Needles to say I returned it and am shopping for a better grinder. Its a real shame because I really loved this grinder. But I can't be spending 2 bills on grinder and have this problem happen again, especially out of warranty.
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