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idrinkcoffee2013
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:52am
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this was a strange experience as far as i can recall.  i been doing folgers brew medium roast. and i got this big jar which been pretty positive for cognition and mood.  then i didn't realize at first, two small jars that went south for cognition and mood, it seems to turn against you later on after consumption.


then i got a big jar again and the position result came back.  

i did notice the right grounds had this sweet and strong smell and the wrong one had just a strong smell.

i don't know what to chalk it up to.  anyone know coffee science here? is it possible the wrong ones came from unripen beans?  could unripen beans caused the difference?  i mean the wrong one didn't taste spoiled or nothing.  trying to make sense of things here.

i thought i had some strange sickness or something cuz just wasn't feeling right before while on the wrong grounds.

i guess just gotta be more careful these days, rarely had something like this years back...
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013, 5:01am
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IDrinkCoffee,

How long have you been drinking coffee?  

Is Folgers the only coffee you've tried?

When talking about "jars" of the coffee, are you referring to the "plastic cans" the coffee comes in?
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013, 5:08am
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I'm sorry but I can't understand what you are trying to say.

General answers though, anything in a can, pre ground, is going to be bad tasting, you need fresh roasted coffee, freshly ground for good flavor.
The Folgers in a small can is the same stuff that is in a big can so as far as that goes, it is the same. They roast, grind and pack in the same factory and only put it into different size cans so there is no difference in the product regardless of the size of the can.

We advise against using canned and pre ground coffee because it is stale and nasty tasting for us. If you like it then feel free to use it but know you are missing out on the taste of quality coffee. Much like you would not get a 5 star meal at McDonnalds. YMMV!

 
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Anything I post is personal opinion and is only worth as much as anyone else's personal opinion. YMMV!

Feed the newbs, starve the trolls and above all enjoy what you drink!
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013, 5:41am
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I agree with CalBlacksmith.

BEWARE as I've seen many comments on CoffeeDetective.com about people experiencing negative physical symptoms after drinking ANY variety of Folgers and/or Maxwell House coffees----headaches, different stomach and lower intestinal issues, etc. These were not serious issues, just very uncomfortable and aggravating AND went away once they quit drinking either of these coffees. There were also complaints about a "chemical smell" when opening cans and awful taste after brewing.

If you desire/need a good caffeine 'kick' try fresh roasted coffee beans---grind just before brewing. A small French Press, some fresh coarse ground coffee and teapot of water just off the boil will easily work.

If you want instant coffee, the only thing I can think of is buying some of those quick boost caffeine drinks sold in stores.
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013, 6:13am
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Folgers and Maxwell etc shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as coffee lol

Otherwise, I have no idea what your trying to say in your post OP
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013, 6:47am
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CMIN....  you're right as rain, I agree. Don't know what's in those cans but it ain't coffee.

I think the OP is just looking for caffeine, no matter the source.
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013, 7:45am
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Folks, I'd highly suggest you track back in IDC's posts by clicking on his user name. From what I can gather this person is something of a primordial pharmacological alchemist. The primary premise is coffee is a tool toward cognitive function and sense of reasonably comfortable well being / balance within their body. They bring an aspect of coffee geek-dom which is not the general tenor of conversations on these boards. As such you have an opportunity to see things from a very different perspective.

A C; yes, quality control when considering the mass production of main line consumer grade coffees can have wide swings just like specialty product. They could have had a loss of purge gas when sealing the containers and experienced bad oxidation in that batch. It's amazing how very small changes can have huge impact on the cup, or physiologic response.
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013, 8:05am
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idrinkcoffee2013 Said:

this was a strange experience as far as i can recall.  i been doing folgers

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There is your problem right there....nuff said!

MerlApAmber.....I just had  a "loss of purge gas" just thinking about Folgers....
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013, 8:31am
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DavecUK Said:

There is your problem right there....nuff said!

MerlApAmber.....I just had  a "loss of purge gas" just thinking about Folgers....

Posted April 18, 2013 link

Dave,
It's funny, once I started really thinking about what coffee is and how it becomes - well, lets just say I hold no truck with anything processed in continuous roasting, let alone batch roasts above 20 - 50 kilo. Sigh...
Regards,
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