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Posted Wed Aug 22, 2012, 7:07am
Subject: Re: Why use the Metric System?
 

GVDub Said:

Wayne, I would bet money you've got at least one set of metric wrenches hanging around your shop. You've already been contaminated!

Posted August 21, 2012 link

Nah, that is what the CRESSENT wrench was invented for!


OK, ya I do have a few of those weard size wrenches.
Dag Nabbit!

Then again you could have some Brittish Whitworth wrenches, I do, don' you?

 
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Posted Wed Aug 22, 2012, 7:23am
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calblacksmith Said:

Nah, that is what the CRESSENT wrench was invented for!


OK, ya I do have a few of those weard size wrenches.
Dag Nabbit!

Then again you could have some Brittish Whitworth wrenches, I do, don' you?

Posted August 22, 2012 link

Not personally, but I did used to help a friend work on his '52 MG.
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Posted Wed Aug 22, 2012, 7:36am
Subject: Re: Why use the Metric System?
 

Back when I was in school before the day of hand calculators, the fact that we still used the archaic English measurement system used to irritate me greatly. They even had the good sense to scrap it.  OK, not for beer maybe.  I guess 0.5 l of Samuel Smith Imperial Stout just doesn't sound right.

If you told me in the 70s that we would still be using the English system in 2012 I would not have believed you.  

While I'm embarrassed that we in this Country still use this cumbersome system, with electronic calculators so available it is really no big deal.

Phil

 
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Posted Wed Aug 22, 2012, 8:48am
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PJK Said:

I guess 0.5 l of Samuel Smith Imperial Stout just doesn't sound right.

Posted August 22, 2012 link

You're right, Phil - and I guess as we're in a forum where precision is demanded, you'd have to ask for 568.26125 ml which would sound even less right ;o)  (of course, you'd have to ask only for 473.176473 ml in the US.....)

It all adds to the variety of life I guess, and long may that last.
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Posted Fri Aug 24, 2012, 8:26am
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I would love to migrate over to using metric. I never cared much before I started learning to brew coffee, and I learned to love it very quickly. It just makes sense as a system.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 24, 2012, 12:50pm
Subject: Re: Why use the Metric System?
 

In Canada, we converted to metric around 20 years ago.  It was not entirely successful.  I still buy meat from the butcher in lbs.  I am still more comfortable with Farenheight  than Centigrade.  This is because the degrees are smaller.  So 98.6F is 'normal', 99F is 'small variation', 99.5F is a slight fever and 100F, take some aspirin.  

We used to buy gasoline in Imperial Gallons but now we buy it in Litres.  We used to measure fuel efficiency in miles per gallon (Imperial or US) but now we have Litres per 100 kilometres which is INVERTED and the dumbest choice they could possibly make.  

For my Krups Moka Brew, I use 36 fl oz (not 1.064 litres) as it is easier to remember and measure.  Also, I use 45 grams of coffee (not 1.573 oz avoirdupois) because it is an easy number to remember.  In fact, my whole coffee program is one big mixed metaphor.  

I admit that metric is more sensible.  If I had grown up with it, gone through university with it, had a working career with it ...I would probably love it.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 24, 2012, 5:07pm
Subject: Re: Why use the Metric System?
 

JKalpin Said:

I am still more comfortable with Farenheight  than Centigrade.  This is because the degrees are smaller.  So 98.6F is 'normal', 99F is 'small variation', 99.5F is a slight fever and 100F, take some aspirin.  

Posted August 24, 2012 link

Since I've always grown up with metric, I don't really know any different, yet appreciate the value of this system.  I know many who are unsure what 20 degrees C feels like, but find it a tough sell that F is more practical because of 'smaller variations'.  I think the freezing point of 0 and boiling point of 100 far outweigh that difference.
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Posted Fri Aug 31, 2012, 10:27am
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Netphilosopher Said:

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here.  This is the WAR ROOM!"

Posted August 22, 2012 link

One of the best lines in any movie . . . .

 
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Posted Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:02pm
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I personally like how much more precise grams are over ounces.

There are 28 grams in an ounce. (Approximately) It's easier to grind and tamp 16 grams of coffee than 0.564 ounces of coffee.. IMHO!

Then I looked up on Wikipedia.. Apparently, a "Dram" is very close to a gram. 16 grams is about 9 drams.

Of course, if you say, "Well, I'm grinding 9 drams of coffee..." nobody will know what you are talking about!

 
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Posted Tue Sep 4, 2012, 6:56pm
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When I bake, I weight just about everything in grams, except for very small amounts like partial teaspoons. But if the manufacturers went true metric, instead of the 1lb (454 grams), we'd see the same product in multiple quantities like liquor does-- 750ml & 1.75L, designed to make price conversion a small mental exercise.
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