Cerridwyn Senior Member Joined: 6 Jun 2010 Posts: 402 Location: Inland Empire California Expertise: I live coffee
Posted Tue May 8, 2012, 5:15am Subject: Re: Coffee Drinking: An Emerging Social Problem?
I'd like to just roll my eyes. While the affects of caffeine are still being studied, there are plusses in coffee, I don't think there are any in cigarettes. Are some people addicted to? In a way. They get blinding headaches when they don't drink it. For others is it casual in a way cigarettes could never be - absolutely.
And let's not forget our friends who are addicted to energy drinks. Or even just cola.
Posted Tue May 8, 2012, 5:49am Subject: Re: Coffee Drinking: An Emerging Social Problem?
I note the date of that article is almost 30 years ago.
Coffee has gone from being bad, to being good, to being bad, to being good again since then. It has benefits, it has drawbacks. It's not addictive, but people do build dependency and tolerance to it. At most its effects are mild to those who are not overly sensitive to it. I'm going to die anyway, so why hide from an enjoyable part of life just because it might kill me in, oh say, 70 years?
i have to agree. WE ARE ALL ADDICTED! that is the MAIN reason people drink coffee. (same holds true with alcohol and wine) this site wouldn't exist if coffee didn't have caffeine in it. the same holds true for the expensive equipment used to make it. remember, most people don't start off drinking decaf. ;)
BTW, nicotine is more toxic than cocaine.
"You can write down how to make the perfect cup of coffee. But to make it really good, you have to play something fictional, you have to dress up, you have to think, This is the most important thing."
Posted Tue May 8, 2012, 8:42am Subject: Re: Coffee Drinking: An Emerging Social Problem?
Lets have them try to take my coffee cup from my hands. They gonna have to get by Kaiser vom Nordostenhaus, my military grade purebred unneutered working line German Shepherd first. He is only 8 months in the picture shown, now is over 2 years old and much bigger. He's not a vicious dog; its just that he will rip you a new a*shole and think its just a game. And thats just from the humping.
Len
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"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
Posted Tue May 8, 2012, 10:11am Subject: Re: Coffee Drinking: An Emerging Social Problem?
Enh.
Read "all about coffee" by Ukers. It's one of the neater (and pretty much free) books on coffee history there are.
Since the dawn of civilization, coffee has been the elixir of the gods or worse than heroin. It was the counterpoint to British rule and their penchant for tea, considered ESSENTIAL to both sides of the American Civil War (and so rare in the South during the civil war that supposedly a famous jeweler set a single roasted coffee bean in a gold setting because it was so valuable).
In the 70s it was supposedly proven to be a stronger link to pancreatic cancer than smoking was to lung disease (this has since been disproven, so fear not - the coffee-pancreatic cancer link, smoking still causes lung disease ;^D ).
Recently, it raises cholesterol (apparently doing so without causing an epidemiological link to mortality - go figure), and so causes people to do things they THINK protects them from this "harmful" effect (like using a special filter in their french press because there's some "magic" properties of a non-metal filter).
This too shall pass, and we will understand that all in moderation is fine enough. Coffee is coffee.
(Except for exposure to curare - there's no such thing as "moderation". LOL)
------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Le café doit être noir comme le diable, chaud comme l'enfer, pur comme un ange, et doux comme l'amour.
"There is no right answer with coffee. There is only the elixir in your cup at the moment you partake."
"...I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind;..." - Lord Kelvin RECIPES thread => http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/machines/585708
+1. I remember when eggs would kill you. Now they are good for you. Butter would kill you; so use margarine. Now margarine will kill you faster than butter.
Eat and drink in moderation; look both ways before you cross the street; don't release too much gas in a small enclosed area and light a match; believe 1/2 of what you see and nothing what you read; and most of all enjoy life.
Len
"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
Exact same is true for me. I drink decaf at times just because I like the taste of coffee in general (even though decafs tend not to be very good, it's better than not having any at all).
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