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Posted Tue Nov 30, 2010, 3:42am
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You can check an interesting collection of facts about coffee here
Click Here (hubpages.com)
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Posted Sat Dec 11, 2010, 11:31am
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Excelent and usefull informations.Thank you for a wonderfull lecture.
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Posted Sat Dec 11, 2010, 12:00pm
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While looking at this I found a link to my favorite scene from "The Bucket List".  Check it out: Click Here (www.youtube.com)

In this movie Jack Nickelson's character was stinking rich and drank Kopi Luwak since it was the most expensive and therefore must be the best.

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Posted Sat Dec 11, 2010, 12:25pm
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I read the page you referenced, however I question the following claim shown on that page:

"2. Studies showed that coffee is the third most popular drink in the world, behind water and tea."

My issue is how is coffee the 3rd most popular drink while it ranks #2 (only behind oil) as the most traded commodity?  I can see water being #1, but tea consumption is higher than coffee?  Maybe in the 1700's and before, but in today's world I just cannot see that.

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Posted Sat Dec 11, 2010, 3:09pm
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FWIW . . . .

From teausa.com:

Tea is the most widely consumed beverage in the world next to water, and can be found
in almost 80% of all U.S. households. It is the only beverage commonly served hot or
iced, anytime, anywhere, for any occasion. On any given day, over 127 million
Americans are drinking tea.

Statistics then follow this paragraph.

 
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Posted Sat Dec 11, 2010, 4:00pm
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JasonBrandtLewis Said:

FWIW . . . .

From teausa.com

Posted December 11, 2010 link

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Statistics then follow this paragraph.

Jason, here is some more info which appears to conflict with the OP's URL:

coffee consumption:
Click Here (en.wikipedia.org)

tea consumption:
Click Here (en.wikipedia.org)

I grant that Wiki is a source not truly reliable, but the references look to be decent.

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Posted Sat Dec 11, 2010, 5:18pm
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Len,

Not trying to be difficult, but the weight of the coffee and/or tea that is consumed is irrelevant.  The amount of coffee by weight needed to brew a cup/pot/gallon is substantially more than the amount of tea by weight needed to brew a similar amount.  One needs only stop and realize that, historically, coffee has been sold on the retail level by the pound, while (loose) tea is sold in 4-ounce/quarter-pound lots.

To be fair, one needs to look at the per capita consumption in liquid form, not by weight.

The Agricultural Research Service of the U.S. Dept of Agriculture echoes the "second most consumed" statement.  Keep in mind that, while some tea drinkers do not drink coffee, almost every coffee drinker drinks tea -- iced tea, if nothing else.  Remember, too, that many nations primarily consume tea, rather than coffee.

From the National Coffee Association of the USA:

Fourth Quarter of 2009

-- World coffee production for 2009/10 is revised down by 2.2 million bags to 125.2 million bags and the 2008/9 estimate is cut 4.7 million bags to 130.0 million bags, as reported from the December 2009 USDA report.
 
-- US Imports:  Total exports for fourth-quarter 2009 were 21.24 million bags, down from 22.01 million bags in the third quarter, a 3.6% decrease. Compared with the year-ago quarter, total exports were down by 8% from 23.11 million bags. Compared with previous fourth quarters, it is lower than the 2007 figure by 3.6%, down 8.6% from 2006 and higher by 7.7% over 2005.

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From the International Coffee Organization:

Exports in the 12 months (Nov/09 to Oct/10) have decreased by 4.3% to 93.6 million bags compared to 97.8 million bags in the same period last year. In the twelve months ending October 2010, exports of Arabica totalled 61.8 million bags, unchanged from last year; whereas Robusta exports amounted to 31.8 million bags compared to 36 million bags last year.

There is indeed "an explosion" is "specialty" coffee, but overall coffee production seems to be declining, as is the price.

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Posted Sat Dec 11, 2010, 7:39pm
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JasonBrandtLewis Said:

Len,

Not trying to be difficult, but the weight of the coffee and/or tea that is consumed is irrelevant.  The amount of coffee by weight needed to brew a cup/pot/gallon is substantially more than the amount of tea by weight needed to brew a similar amount.  One needs only stop and realize that, historically, coffee has been sold on the retail level by the pound, while (loose) tea is sold in 4-ounce/quarter-pound lots.

From the National Coffee Association of the USA:

(Note: quote edited for form, not content.)

From the International Coffee Organization:

There is indeed "an explosion" is "specialty" coffee, but overall coffee production seems to be declining, as is the price.

Cheers,
Jason

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Now it all makes sense.  Thank you Jason.

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Posted Sat Dec 11, 2010, 9:29pm
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Also, Len, the coffee statistic you pointed to (2nd most traded commodity) has been repeatedly shown as a myth, but widely repeated. The linked article reports, rather, that "Coffee is the second most valuable commodity exported by developing countries," behind oil, ahead of sugar. One of those things we've all heard before and would love to believe, until somebody says "waitaminute..."
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Posted Sat Dec 11, 2010, 10:01pm
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SteveRhinehart Said:

Also, Len, the coffee statistic you pointed to (2nd most traded commodity) has been repeatedly shown as a myth, but widely repeated. The linked article reports, rather, that "Coffee is the second most valuable commodity exported by developing countries," behind oil, ahead of sugar. One of those things we've all heard before and would love to believe, until somebody says "waitaminute..."

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The devils in the details, sure enough.  Interesting stuff.  Would you say commodities trading, etc., is macroeconomics?  

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