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KristinIrene
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Posted Fri Jun 13, 2008, 5:21am
Subject: Froth problems with very fresh milk?
 

I started buying milk from a local farm:  No hormones and verrrrrry fresh.  The 2% is almost too "milky" tasting for a latte or cap.  I am having a hell of a time getting it to froth; NEVER had a problem with regular grocery store milk, also 2%.  I want to support this farm and also have more healthy milk, but the froth is barely dense and it curdles if you keep trying too long.

I have a Rancilio Silvia with the froth wand three jet adjustment.

Advice?  Should I just buy cheap milk for my coffee drinks?
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Posted Fri Jun 13, 2008, 7:08pm
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There are quite a lot of variable in farm foods, from tomatoes to milk. Feedlot cows have a rather specific diet whereas farm cows wander and eat what they feel like. You'll never get consistently frothable milk, but that's not why you switched is it? Take comfort in the values in this milk.

If your farmer has an onion patch, wait until they find their way into that. Hehe.

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Posted Fri Jun 13, 2008, 8:16pm
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I use only organic whole milk & have no problems. Bought 2% once by mistake & had a hard time getting good microfoam.

 
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Posted Fri Jun 13, 2008, 9:39pm
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You probably have old Louie Pasture rolling in his grave.  There is a reason he invented his process, you may find out why the hard way getting your milk fresh off the tit so to speak!
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Posted Fri Jun 13, 2008, 11:57pm
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KristinIrene Said:

I started buying milk from a local farm:  No hormones and verrrrrry fresh.  The 2% is almost too "milky" tasting for a latte or cap.  I am having a hell of a time getting it to froth; NEVER had a problem with regular grocery store milk, also 2%.  I want to support this farm and also have more healthy milk, but the froth is barely dense and it curdles if you keep trying too long.

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Might I ask if the particular milk in question was homogenized or not?
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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2008, 6:42am
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pilgrim5 Said:

You probably have old Louie Pasture rolling in his grave.  There is a reason he invented his process, you may find out why the hard way getting your milk fresh off the tit so to speak!

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This isn't the question, now is it? Of course this isn't the place to speak about it, but I'll just say that, no, it's not for everyone; but if you can trust the farmer to go through the loops, it's safe. At least it gets us back to seeing our food.

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