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Posted Tue Jul 19, 2005, 5:00pm
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Jura Capresso Impressa S9 Super Automatic

CoffeeGeek takes a long overdue look at one of the top of the line consumer / office super automatics available today - the Jura Capresso Impressa S9 dual thermoblock machine.
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Posted Wed Jul 20, 2005, 9:11pm
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I have one small comment that has nothing to do with the Jura. Regarding milk frothing, the Jura review suggests introducing air until roughly 90F and then submerging. The coffeegeek steaming tutorial that Mark links to his review suggests airing up to 100-120F for a latte and as high as 140F for making a capp. My knowledge of the subject comes mostly from reading old Daivd Schomer articles which I recall suggest 100F or so. Any further discussion of this should probably move to another area of the forum but it came up for me while reading the review.
Otherwise thanks to Mark for such an extensive review of a product even though few of us will probably ever use one. It's great to find out how the superautos perform without actually having buy and futz around with one.
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Posted Thu Jul 21, 2005, 1:29pm
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I realize this is a different machine but my experience so far with a Jura S90 couldn't be further from this....initial quality is good...meaning it has brewed good espresso for the first week or so after return from service (4 times). Then the temps drop on the water and that's all she wrote....biggest waste of money I've spent on a super automatic.
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Posted Thu Jul 21, 2005, 1:46pm
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I'd like to play around with the Impressa S9, but I think I'd miss the ritual of making my own espresso too much to invest in one.

There are times though, when having one of these would be very nice.  Plus, the machines look way cool when I've seem them in Williams Sonoma.

If I had the counter space and finances for this, plus my Classic and MDF grinder - oh well.  Dream on.

(It's a curse wanting to HAVE IT ALL!)

 
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Posted Thu Jul 21, 2005, 2:55pm
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I have the Impress S8, and like it very much. Two things:

1) I have replaced the tip on the steam wand with a more traditional one, with good results. I'll take a picture of it and post here.

2) I use Black Cat, and if I dial the grinder down to the finest setting, it chokes the machine, or at best I get drip-drop pours - certainly not streams. Anything you can think of why this would be?

One other question for anyone who has one, or for Mark - did you find much water in the drip tray after brewing shots? I find that the machines releases a good bit of pressure post-brew into the drip tray.

 
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Posted Thu Jul 21, 2005, 4:38pm
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SkyRyders90 Said:

I have the Impress S8, and like it very much. Two things:

1) I have replaced the tip on the steam wand with a more traditional one, with good results. I'll take a picture of it and post here.

2) I use Black Cat, and if I dial the grinder down to the finest setting, it chokes the machine, or at best I get drip-drop pours - certainly not streams. Anything you can think of why this would be?

One other question for anyone who has one, or for Mark - did you find much water in the drip tray after brewing shots? I find that the machines releases a good bit of pressure post-brew into the drip tray.

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1 - yeah definitely post a pic of the mod!

2 - I tried a feeble attempt to take the grinder apart and hack the burr settings to grind finer, but didn't succeed (mainly because I didn't want to break the test machine). Here's a thought though - perhaps Jura Capresso read my initial commentary regarding finess of grind in the First Look, published over 18 months ago, and made changes in the interim. Because I certainly can't choke the machine at the finest setting ;)

3 - the machine does expell a bit more water than other machines I've tested (super autos) - I think that's just the result of a good pressure relief system. It also does a lot of "flushing" and cleaning of the machine, which is good as well.

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Posted Thu Jul 21, 2005, 7:24pm
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MarkPrince Said:

1 - yeah definitely post a pic of the mod!

2 - I tried a feeble attempt to take the grinder apart and hack the burr settings to grind finer, but didn't succeed (mainly because I didn't want to break the test machine). Here's a thought though - perhaps Jura Capresso read my initial commentary regarding finess of grind in the First Look, published over 18 months ago, and made changes in the interim. Because I certainly can't choke the machine at the finest setting ;)

Posted July 21, 2005 link

Here is a close-up.

I played arounnd a little more tonight, including running a cleaning cycle. I can choke the machine on the finest grind, and on the second-finest I get dribbles - I can let it go and eventually get a full shot, but it's not good, very little crema, etc. On the third-finest grind setting I get tiger-striping in the streams, and a good solid Guiness-effect for the entire shot.

I don't know if they have changed anything, or if my machine just has a quirk, or what.

SkyRyders90: DSC01042.jpg
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Posted Thu Jul 21, 2005, 7:26pm
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Here's another pic of the "mod." I put it in quotes because all I did was take the steam tip from an OLD Krups coffee/espresso combo machine my wife had. Turns out it fit.

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Posted Fri Jul 22, 2005, 10:27am
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For getting a 12 second pour, I would have expected more criticism from you!

I know you probably work even harder than most people in the industry to promote better coffee knowledge... I was a little shocked, that's all.

Still love your writing style and the photography though... and looking forward to the next review!

 
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Posted Fri Jul 22, 2005, 12:00pm
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The problem is Jimmy is that they are ALL like that. All the super automatics. At least the ones I've tested. And I harp constantly through this review on that subject:

- grind settings not fine enough
- piston designs are flawed
- puck sizes are too small
- no intellgent system in place for giving the same brew time for a single as a double

The double pours are up in the near 20 second time, for a 2.5oz+ shot using roughly 16g of coffee. That's the number you should be focused on. Who drinks singles from their traditional machine, using single baskets?

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