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ippudo
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 5:51am
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Thanks for the excellent review.

I am a newbie to grinders and I am planning to buy my first coffee grinder.
I have just narrowed down into two beautiful machiines - Baratza Preciso and Eureka Mignon, which are considered great for expresso in many reviews.
More importantly , I read an independent review from Bella Barista, which ranked Eureka Mignon above Vario for consistency and usability.
http://www.bellabarista.co.uk/news/coffee-grinder-review.asp
This makes me undecided between Preciso (which I assume is not as good as Vario) and Eureka Mignon.
Not sure the geeks here have any experience with Eureka Mignon (coz it seems to be more popular in EU and Australia). I shall appreciate if any profesionals here could advise me if I should pay an additional USD100 for Eureka Mignon.
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 6:55am
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Not sure about the Eureka, but Preciso vs Vario for espresso is a wash (same taste in the cup) - buy what your budget allows but no need to spend more than you should either.

 
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 8:02am
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ippudo Said:

... I have just narrowed down into two beautiful machiines - Baratza Preciso and Eureka Mignon, which are considered great for expresso in many reviews. ...

Posted January 9, 2012 link

The Eureka Mignon Istantaneo is a solid stepless grinder, which is why I'd recommend it over the Preciso.

 
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 8:37am
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Could just amount to personal preference/style, but the Preciso is more or less stepless IMO considering how many baby steps it actually has.
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 8:47am
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jbviau Said:

Could just amount to personal preference/style, but the Preciso is more or less stepless IMO considering how many baby steps it actually has.

Posted January 9, 2012 link

440 possible steps. {;-)

 
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 9:31am
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NobbyR Said:

The Eureka Mignon Istantaneo is a solid stepless grinder, which is why I'd recommend it over the Preciso.

Posted January 9, 2012 link

Agree - if the money is close the Eureka looks like what I would pick too.

 
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 9:44am
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Folks, as i believe the post from new member "ippudo" is a comparison post, and not specifically oriented towards the Preciso (+ or -) per se, I'd like to see us re-direct this thread back on topic.
I certainly understand his wanting to get the proper grinder for his usage, but in this case, the stepped/stepless discussion does not apply, as per MANY reviews of the Preciso and Vario.

 
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:41am
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I figured he would appreciate an honest evaluation i.e. Nobby's recommendation to purchase the Eureka if the budget allows - he could have started a new thread but it takes enough courage to make the first post - a new thread is sometimes a lot to expect from a new yet welcomed member.

 
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 6:36pm
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My apology if I posted this thread at the wrong section.
Thanks all for contributing your views.
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Posted Mon Jan 16, 2012, 2:53pm
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So much praise for the machine...so why am I unhappy with mine? I find the portafilter holder to be flimsy. When I grind into the portafilter, coffee grounds spray across the cabinet. The timer knob on the side of the machine falls off all the time - need I glue it on? I had to replace a part once - yes, Baratza supplied it, and there are instructions. But it meant prying and fussing with the thing to get it apart and back together. A small plastic pin had shorn off - very flimsy. Lots of plastic inside. Now I'm going to have to open it up again because I cannot get the grind fine enough for the Silvia. There's a wee adjustment screw inside that I will need to remove and reposition. Ish. I envision dropping the bugger or fiddling to no end to get it seated again in the propper place. Not happy. It may be, however, that the pin has broken again - and if so, the cycle starts all over. Tech specs are one thing. Daily use is another.

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