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Groch
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Espresso: Krups Orchestro
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Roaster: Heathware Precision
Posted Sun Dec 28, 2003, 9:57am
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Sounds like a well designed product that offers yet another brewing alternative. Thanks for the Cooking.com discount information, I have one on the way.

Where can the filters be bought in the U.S. The owners manual refers to a 94mm disc filter;  I do not think this is the standard disc size here.  I do not have the machine yet to compare it.   It is not on the Krups site, thanks in advance for the help.
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Raab
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Location: Frankfurt, DE
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Posted Mon Dec 29, 2003, 12:12pm
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I'm new to this website but I have to totally agree with Mark's evaluation on this coffee maker.  I've owned one of these Krup's models for the last year (I live in Europe) and I have to say this is the first maker I've ever bought that didn't have me looking for a new one after about two months.  

I appreciate the comments on the proper grind...As my instructions came in German I had little idea how coarse/fine I needed to go.  I also have never tamped...I'll have to try that tomorrow.  Then again, I don't notice the burnt coffee smell you guys have mentioned.  Could be a function of a little more pressure build up with the tamping?  Or maybe the difference in how a 220 volt system works vice a 110?  I don't know...If I were a genius, I'd be rich and able to sit at Starbuck's all morning drinking coffee and watching the women come and go.  (You don't think I go there for the coffee...)

In response to KeyserSoze's curiosity about other German coffee makers...This one stands out.  I bought mine from a place similar to Circuit City (called Media Markt) and they had about 50 different drip, french press, thermal carafe, etc...makers on the shelf.  The Krup's Moka Brew (or whatever they call it) was at the top of the price line, just below the Porsche designed model and a couple others.  I think I paid about 115 Euro, back when it was about equal to the dollar.  There weren't any brewers that operated in a similar fashion on the shelves.

I remember that I was particularly looking for a maker that would heat the water to the proper temp and not let too much air get into the carafe during the process.  This one seemed to fit the bill.

Thanks for the review Mark,
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MarkPrince
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Posted Mon Dec 29, 2003, 1:13pm
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Thanks Raab! Great first post to the forums.  Glad you concur with the Moka Brew review - I think it's a kick butt brewer. I only worry that Krups may discontinue it after a few months (the cynic in me thinks that, based on them discontinuing their best espresso machines, like the Novo Compact).

Hey, you know what I'd love to see - I'd love to see photos from German department stores, electronics stores, kitchen stores... the coffee machine section - it'd be cool to see what Europeans have to choose from when they go into their equivalent of Walmart or Circuit City...

Cheers and happy new year

Mark

 
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Raab
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Posted Tue Dec 30, 2003, 7:18am
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OK Mark, you started it!

First a photo of the standard office worker (me) and my credenza at work.  Keep in mind that this is how EVERYONE'S office here is set up.

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Posted Sat Jan 3, 2004, 4:47pm
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CoffeeKid Said:

Hey, you know what I'd love to see - I'd love to see photos from German department stores, electronics stores, kitchen stores... the coffee machine section - it'd be cool to see what Europeans have to choose from when they go into their equivalent of Walmart or Circuit City...


Hey Mark, try this http://makeashorterlink.com/?M2DC53BE6   then click on 'galerie' on the left. The google translation adds a certain something.

I like the ceiling fan in pic 11 - too bad I live in an old cottage with low ceilings.

Cheers

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kmedsker
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Posted Fri Jan 16, 2004, 12:20pm
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Moka Mania!!!  After reading your in-depth report on this machine and seeing it recommended on NBC's Today show, I shopped around on the internet and found one for $85 using the coupon code C88226 at www.cooking.com.  I'm not a coffee professional, but in my eyes this machine is awesome.  I set my grinder somewhere between espresso and drip, followed coffeegeeks instructions word-for-word and have been drinking some of the best home brew ever since.

My only concern is with the rubber gasket on the water cover plate.  Only time will tell if it can maitain that factory tight seal.  Looks great, tastes great and I got it for less than $100.  Christmas money well spent!!!
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lsd
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Posted Sat Jan 31, 2004, 3:22pm
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I'm having lots of problems with a very bkitter taste.  I am using a full pot, and a grind between drip and espresso.  I have a scoop from Starbucks that is two tablespoons.  Starbucks recommends 1 scoop (two tablespoons) for each 6 oz of water -- so for 40 oz I have been using 6 1/2 scoops (or 13 tablespoons).  Does this sound right or is the amount making my coffee bitter and espresso-tasting?

Thanks.
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Groch
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Espresso: Krups Orchestro
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Posted Sat Jan 31, 2004, 3:51pm
Subject: Re: Krups Moka Brew Pressure Brewer
 

After using the Moka Brew for a month I am definitely a fan.  I think the coffee is comparable in complexity to my vaccuum brewer, but it is much easier to clean, and only takes about half the ground coffee per cup.  

lsd- I am using about half the coffee you are, with the same type of grind, and it comes out just right for my tastes.  I do tamp it down a bit.  I think the pressure does extract a lot out of a given amount of coffee.

As for filters, the 3 1/2 inch disc filters available widely in the U.S. work fine.  I do sometimes get a little bit of grounds in the bottom of the pot, but that happens to just about the same degree using the Krups filters.   I put a filter on top as well as underneath to get a bit more even dispersion.
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lsd
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Posted Sat Jan 31, 2004, 3:59pm
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Thanks much for the quick reply.  I'll try using 1/2 in the morning.
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Location: edmington
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Andreja Premium; Presso
Grinder: rancilio rocky doserless
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Drip: Krups Moka Brew; Technivorm...
Roaster: behmor 1600; Toastess popper
Posted Mon Mar 15, 2004, 9:27pm
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Thanks to Mark Prince for the good review.  It led me to purchase a Moka Brew a few days ago.  After about 15 experimental pots, I haven't had a cup that really measured up to Mark's described experience.  While the rich, strong coffee taste was there, the bitterness was so great that it really put the brew out of balance, and made it not enjoyable.  I started with Mark's suggested grind and quantity - a "25" on my Rocky, and 8 seven gram scoops of recently roasted beans from a good local roaster.  I have tried different grind settings from 15 to 30 (i use 35 for drip) to no avail.  I tried reducing the amount of coffee to 6 scoops - still somewhat bitter.  4 scoops - no bitterness, but not much body or taste either.  I tamped lightly in all cases.
Any suggestions?  Our water is somewhat "hard" here - any chemists out there who think demineralized water would reduce bitterness?

I noticed in some of the reviews of Italian stove-top moka pots on this site there is a claim the "secret" of loading the ground coffee is to leave it in a cone shape in the filter basket, rather than flattening it - anyone experimented with this with the Krups?

Re suggestion the Krups is pricey at $US100 - that is about $Cdn135 at current exchange rates - but the list price for the krups here is $Cdn180.  I got it on sale for about $Cdn 155.

 
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