Rusto Senior Member Joined: 19 Oct 2009 Posts: 38 Location: St. Paul, MN Expertise: I love coffee
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Posted Thu Nov 26, 2009, 5:52pm Subject: Re: Espresso Con Panna!
I can't believe that he has left out the two or more most important steps! After pulling the shot you have to fill your mouth with whipped cream. And after drinking the "Panna" you must repeat the previous step until you either run out of cream or pass out. Amateur! ;p
Pitruzzo Senior Member Joined: 7 Jun 2010 Posts: 11 Location: UK Expertise: I love coffee
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Posted Sat Jun 12, 2010, 11:48pm Subject: Re: Espresso Con Panna!
Ever heard of Italy? Caffe' con panna existed there long before Starbucks was even conceived. Sure, Starbucks invented coffee too. Starbucks are so unoriginal even their name comes from Herman Melville.
Endymion73 Senior Member Joined: 3 Nov 2011 Posts: 1 Location: Forlì Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Thu Nov 3, 2011, 10:13am Subject: Re: Espresso Con Panna!
As you said, "Essentially a Starbucks invention (but it has previous roots)...", so its name had some mistake of spelling. In Italian, as my daughter pointed, it should be "Panne", not "Panna". Since it can not be single, only plural form.
I think that it is better to consult an Italian for its correct spelling.
It is actually the other way around. I am an Italian native speaker and what you say is as wrong as it can get. "Panna" is ALWAYS singular and never becomes plural, indeed, the whole name "caffè con panna" (or espresso con panna, but we call it caffé, not espresso, unless you work in a bar) is invariable. For example, if you want to say that there are many types of cream, you'll say "ci sono tanti tipi di panna", if you say "tanti tipi di panne" you sound either uneducated, voluntarily "alternative" or foreign. "Panne" exists only in the fixed expression "in panne" referred to cars or other vehicles, which basically means broken or otherwise unable to move for mechanical reasons. It's an old fashioned expression that probably now is obsolete.
That said, Starbucks didn't invent anything. My father is 79 and has never been outside Italy, and we've been having coffee "con panna" ever since I was a kid (and I'm 38) usually, instead of canned whipped cream we buy cream from the gelataio and whip it just before adding it to the coffee. You can also dress the "panna" with some cinnamon powder. Heaven in a cup of espresso.
TedM Senior Member Joined: 31 Aug 2010 Posts: 6 Location: GMT+2 Expertise: I live coffee
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Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 1:32am Subject: Re: Espresso Con Panna!
I just stumbled across this. I must entirely disagree w/the provenance of cafe' con panne.
Certainly in Milano, this is a popular drink. I don't know about the rest of Italy, but it's quite common in the coffee bars of Milano. I first discovered it there a few years ago, when a colleague I was visiting introduced it to me. Luckily, I visit only infrequently or else I'd not fit through the front door anymore...
It is the most amazing drink - ever. The contrast of textures...temperatures...sweet and sharp.....I thought I had died and gone to heaven.
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