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CookieMonster520
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Posted Tue Sep 9, 2008, 10:43am
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This article was fantastic! I have been looking around for more information about the siphon and would only be able to fine small bits and pieces. This article was well written, very informative, and a fun read.

Great! i hope to see more articles from you.

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Posted Sun Sep 14, 2008, 12:35pm
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Need help finding a post.  Can't find it with 'search' or Google.

Poster had a complete script to use on eBay 'search' to discover all the siphon/vac pots/associated schtuff.  Anyone remember where it is buried?  I give up.

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Posted Sat Oct 4, 2008, 2:55pm
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FWIW, I've been very happy using the Hario paper filters and holder, which I bought from Avenue 18. I get great coffee and absolutely repeatable results every time because the paper filter is new every pot.

I think I use more coffee than most people -- 65 to 70 grams for a full pot in a 5-cup Yama, ground more or less as for drip. I dose the coffee when the water is nearly entirely in the upper globe and then let it go for 2 minutes and 15 seconds with the water temperature between 190 and 195. Drawdown is always between 35 and 40 seconds. Clearnup is nearly as easy as with the glass filter.

Taste is great, and while I'm not getting all the oils that would pass through the other filters, I'm nervous about cholesterol and find the tradeoff completely acceptable.

The chain on the filter holder is a little short for the Yama 8-cup, but I'm thinking of getting a second holder and just lengthening the chain.

My best,

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Posted Sat Dec 6, 2008, 11:08pm
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Great article.

I first experienced siphon coffee makers while vacationing in Sweden in 1986.  All the relatives I visited used Bodum models.  A couple of years later, I found a Silex stainless-steel vacuum pot, complete with stainless-steel filter.  Oddly, 3 -5 of these pots were standard issue for an Army National Guard company in the 1960s.  I still use it often, to include camping and tailgating.  Without a doubt, this is the most flavorful, versatile, and durable coffee maker ever made.

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Posted Sun Dec 28, 2008, 5:53pm
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Hi,
This is first post at this site.
EDIT: OOPS, I'm at a different site than I thought, I have posted before and recently :). :EDIT
I have just bought online one which seems to be a different brand than I could find in this thread.
Vaculator 8 cup which has not arrived yet, coming by insured mail.
I'm wondering about the filter which looks like a ceramic disk, but I'm guessing that it does not use a paper nor cloth with it, like was mentioned for a ceramic disc for another brand in this thread.
And that is my question, does anybody know if this brand uses a stand alone filter?

Here is the link for pictures from the auction site which will probably disappear soon, (right and left mouse buttons to zoom picture in/out).

http://www.rubylane.com/ni/shops/shererheaven/iteml/01-1616?

A rewritten copy of the factory instruction brochure which the seller emailed to me the buyer:

"Measure water (into base), place on stove.
Insert Dutch filter, pushing down as far as it will go.  NOTE:  If filter doesn't fit snugly into tube, spread metal clip.
Measure coffee into upper bowl.
Use glass coffee maker grind or fine grind coffee.  DO NOT USE pulverized or powdered grind.
Insert upper bowl (into top of bottom bowl)
Keep flame low so water rises slowly.
After water has risen, stir and allow to "bubble" for one full minute before removing from heat.
{(Crow): In another part of the brochure it says for brewing tea to leave the "tealeaves together with the water for 3 to 4 minutes"}.
If coffee fails to come down, it is because coffee has not bubbled for one full minute.
Because water should never be sent thru the coffee grounds more than once, if coffee fails to filter, prepare fresh water and coffee and follow instructions.  Do not run the same coffee up a second time under any conditions.
When all coffee has filtered, remove upper bowl."

My question is do you think this brand needs a paper or cloth around the ceramic disc?
Of course I could try it but then this pot is in unused condition in the box, and I am hesitant to experiment.

Thanks.

Crow
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Posted Sun Dec 28, 2008, 6:14pm
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Wow, the seller and I had a long discussion by email about whether the filter took a cloth or not. I wanted a clothless filter, my Cona uses a glass tube.
Just now I went back to the brochure online and it said "Dutch clothless filter".
Doh, I guess that answers my question.
Sorry.

By the way, when I bought it, I thought this make and model probably used to be a common one, because Vaculator was/is? still in business making commercial brewers.
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Posted Sun Dec 28, 2008, 7:30pm
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Hi Rob,

Congratulations on that beautiful Vaculator! {;-D

No, the Vaculator Dutch Filter (ceramic) doesn't use a paper or cloth filter at all. It filters from the outside, through the formed ridges against the smooth bottom half to the center of the filter., then down through the 3 equadistant spaced internal holes by way of the vacuum formed in the lower pot. {;-)

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Posted Sun Dec 28, 2008, 7:32pm
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Posted Sun Dec 28, 2008, 7:33pm
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Posted Mon Dec 29, 2008, 6:12am
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Well those are wonderful closeups from Craig.
Cheers me up this morning, I just got up to see that post!
Very interesting filter indeed.
Hmm, well maybe this rig will be too nice to use.
My others, a Cona and a Corel Pyrex pecolator put on great AV,
and I'm a user not a collector.
The perc brews a flat, dull cup.
But it's deja vu from long ago,
and no other type seems to make it like that.  
So, I drink specialty coffee in the Cona daily.
But also some lowly Folgers from the percolator!
Cheers!
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