Posted Fri Feb 22, 2008, 1:21pm Subject: Re: How to Use a Pour Over Brewer
As with all others, excellent article and a favorite method for me over the past 30 years.
One exception is the cloth filter. I used to work for a restaurant that used cloth filters for their drip machines. They were regularly washed to keep them clean. But it didn't take long for them to pick up a stale, spoiled coffee odor. You could smell it when picking up a dry, cleaned filter to use in the machine. They had to be replaced with new at intervals.
I prefer paper because you throw them out and use factory fresh each brew. Then again, I don't get the oils and other products either. But a great taste none the less.
The gold filter also has a plastic frame that picks up stale coffee odor also. The more you scrub these to remove oils and residue the more the thin gold lining also rubs off and you have a metal mesh.
My final solution that ended all the alternatives was the Melitta ceramic cone (scarce as hen's teeth) You can find them on the ebay and end up paying at least $25 for them used. But they are a treasure and hard to find because the owners keep them. They never take an odor even if left with spent filters for a day. They can be washed and cleaned to complete satisfaction for next use.
gt Senior Member Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 155 Location: Mpls/St Paul MN Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: None Grinder: Virtuoso Vac Pot: Hario TCA-5 Drip: AeroPress, Melitta Pour Over Roaster: P1 w/ 2 variacs
Posted Fri Mar 28, 2008, 9:57am Subject: Re: How to Use a Pour Over Brewer
mrhagerty Said:
I used to work for a restaurant that used cloth filters for their drip machines. They were regularly washed to keep them clean. But it didn't take long for them to pick up a stale, spoiled coffee odor.
billg1 Senior Member Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 1 Location: CA Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Tue Apr 15, 2008, 1:47pm Subject: Re: How to Use a Pour Over Brewer
I've noticed that my pour over brewer I got at Sur la Table (Melitta, I think?) has 4 holes at the bottom, which results in the liquid flowing out far too fast, yielding a watery brew. Do other brands that I can buy on amazon, etc. work better in anyone's experience? Maybe I should just figure out a way to plug two of the holes permanently....
Posted Thu May 22, 2008, 3:17pm Subject: Re: How to Use a Pour Over Brewer
Sorry to have not noticed the replies.
The restaurant washed the cloth filters every night in a standard commerical jet spray dishwasher and usually dried in the open air. But I fear that they were seldom rinsed from repeated use during the day, so the coffee oils and all impregnated the fibres.
billg1 - The units with three and four holes seem to be look-a-likes. And I agree those versions drain the water too fast.
Try plugging the two outermost holes with a porcelain touch up paint and remember to smooth the inner side of the filling to avoid building up residues on a craggy surface.
coffeeblack Senior Member Joined: 8 Dec 2005 Posts: 5 Location: GrantsPass, OR Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: Braun Drip: paper / cone
Posted Thu May 22, 2008, 4:11pm Subject: WHY NOT THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS???
Four Tablespoons (gently rounded) Beans into the grinder / grind "pretty durn fine" / yield 2 actual cups ( = one pint/ 16 ounces; bah on those who claim 6 ounces is a cup! For Shame!) of completed brew...
Hey, chemists and alchemists, answer me this: Why not the best of the French Press (longer "soaking time" - - - - - But Without the scuzzy grounds to clean up and to try to get off the screen thingie; and the sludge in the coffee cup from semi-adequate "screen filtration" inefficiency.
Combine this with the convenience of the one (only one morning run) or two (sometimes an afternoon or dinner sip) cent a day habit for unbleached paper filters - - - - but without the too-quick run through problem of typical "cone pours" - - - - - what do we get??
Fresh ground beans into the PRE-WARMED (!!!) French Press pitcher (or carafe, if pitcher isn't hoity toity enough for you, ha), add properly hot water and after a pleasant soak, pour THAT mix through the unbleached paper filter into a pre-warmed cup. Or two cups, if one is worried the Mix is going to get bitter from longer soaking in the pitcher while the first cup is consumed.... (stronger Good, bitter Not Good - - opinions on whether longer = bitter Are solicited!) I almost always find I have some of the second cup that needs a reheat in my little stainless copper-bottom pot over low low heat, kept specially for that purpose.
What isn't to love???
Now somebody tell me what the actual best water temperature is, and how to actually measure it PLEASE!
And for the Truly Scientific researcher, someone Please calculate the amount of Extra water needed to result in two FULL cups of coffee After some of the water has remained behind with the damp bean grindings in the filter.
SCIENCE!!!!!!!! To the Rescue!!!!!!!!! HEP ME!!!! thanks!
Leverage Senior Member Joined: 15 Jun 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Northcoast Ohio Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: La Pavoni Professional,... Grinder: Rancilio Rocky Drip: Melitta Roaster: Gas oven
Posted Sun Jun 15, 2008, 5:13am Subject: Re: How to Use a Pour Over Brewer
I would add that pre-saturation allows for a more full extraction!Pour the thinnest stream of H20 possible over the grounds, just to moisten them! Then, WAIT 30 seconds! Then, pour the rest of the H20 for your cup!. This "pre-saturation" technique allows the coffee grounds to swell and expand ... allowing a fuller, richer extraction!
Posted Sun Jun 15, 2008, 7:05am Subject: Re: How to Use a Pour Over Brewer
Leverage Said:
I would add that pre-saturation allows for a more full extraction!Pour the thinnest stream of H20 possible over the grounds, just to moisten them! Then, WAIT 30 seconds! Then, pour the rest of the H20 for your cup!. This "pre-saturation" technique allows the coffee grounds to swell and expand ... allowing a fuller, richer extraction!
coffeeblack Senior Member Joined: 8 Dec 2005 Posts: 5 Location: GrantsPass, OR Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: Braun Drip: paper / cone
Posted Mon Jun 16, 2008, 11:52am Subject: SCIENCE -->Re: How to Use a Pour Over Brewer
O.K. I put 2 cups, 16 ounces, right to the line, of hotted water; poured it through 4 Tablespoons of commercial ground coffee / unbleached paper filter, back into that same measuring cup. Negligibly below the starting point! Certainly not enough to give a second thought about.
Now, if someone could suggest a way to monitor the temperature, and their opinions for minimum bitter and Max Caffein (Max Caffein, Private Eye?) (sorry, it just Fit...) thermal choice...
LL Senior Member Joined: 16 Jul 2008 Posts: 1 Location: Los Angeles Expertise: Pro Barista
Posted Wed Jul 16, 2008, 3:23pm Subject: Re: How to Use a Pour Over Brewer
Please tell me where you got that cloth filter and handle! I can find cloth filters with a basic web search, but I am not seeing the handle anywhere. I'm interested in buying several. Please help!
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