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alanfrew
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2007, 7:24pm
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1stline Said:

Mark,

I have skimmed through the Rancilio Silvia First Look and thought maybe you should confirm a few things:

a) Aluminum drip tray reference in picture - the latest models I have seen have a stainless steel drip tray, not aluminum.

b) Green pod adaptable sticker on box - We have received two shipments of Silvias of the new pod-adaptable versions, and there were no stickers on the boxes.

c) Portafilter - these are similar, but I believe they are different from the commercial Rancilio ones in that the spout is of a home design  - whereby one small cup can be placed under the two spouts.

Posted July 2, 2007 link

I <think> the new drip trays are some sort of coated pressed stainless steel; they don't feel like aluminium. My latest boxes were also sans the green stickers. The portafilters and baskets ARE standard commercial; spouts are an "add-on" item. You can spec your commercial machine with the same spouts as the domestic one or vice versa. See http://www.coffeeparts.com/car/car2.html , Coffeeparts item no. 511673. These spouts are also used on the latest Lelit machines, and various Ascaso portafilters.

The review machine is NOT the latest incarnation with the new boiler design, but I don't think that the new boilers will affect the performance.
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2007, 9:53pm
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1stline Said:

Mark,

I have skimmed through the Rancilio Silvia First Look and thought maybe you should confirm a few things:

a) Aluminum drip tray reference in picture - the latest models I have seen have a stainless steel drip tray, not aluminum.

b) Green pod adaptable sticker on box - We have received two shipments of Silvias of the new pod-adaptable versions, and there were no stickers on the boxes.

c) Portafilter - these are similar, but I believe they are different from the commercial Rancilio ones in that the spout is of a home design  - whereby one small cup can be placed under the two spouts.

Posted July 2, 2007 link

a) In Seattle last week, I saw the most recent Silvia shipping, and it had a formed lightweight tray with the Rancilio Logo embossed into it. Definitely different from the heavyweight, welded steel box style that the older models (and the one I tested) has. I didn't look closely enough at it, but assume it's aluminum given the light weight and the embossed logo. I would imagine steel costs more to do this kind of forming.

b) The sticker's on my box, as per the photos. And anyway, it's a minor issue.

c) On the portafilter, I'm only going by what Rancilio NA told me direct, and what I saw at the show on their commercial machines. The portafilters are the same as the commercial ones - they can be ordered both with short and long spouts, and in one or two spout configurations, but regardless, the bulk of the PF is "standard" now across the product range. The reason I highlighted this in the article is that, in the past, the Silvia's PF choices were *not* usually the full commercial spec portafilters - now they are.

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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2007, 10:00pm
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alanfrew Said:

The review machine is NOT the latest incarnation with the new boiler design, but I don't think that the new boilers will affect the performance.

Posted July 2, 2007 link

Hey Alan.

I thought the Aussie (and Euro) spec Silvias had a different boiler setup - is this not the case?

I checked with Glenn at SCAA, and he said I have the latest model internally (current therm, boiler, opv), and the only recent change was the drip tray insert.

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Posted Tue Jul 3, 2007, 12:17am
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MarkPrince Said:

Hey Alan.

I thought the Aussie (and Euro) spec Silvias had a different boiler setup - is this not the case?

I checked with Glenn at SCAA, and he said I have the latest model internally (current therm, boiler, opv), and the only recent change was the drip tray insert.

Mark

Posted July 2, 2007 link

New boiler looks like this. Old one is the one in your article photos.

Alan

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Posted Tue Jul 3, 2007, 1:45am
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I can't spot the difference! ;) I have a bunch of photos of the boiler, I gotta take a look tomorrow.

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Posted Tue Jul 3, 2007, 9:45am
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See the following link for some more pics of the new and old boiler (at bottom of page).

http://www.coffeeco.com.au/newsletter/november2006.html

Is there a functional/performance difference between the two versions? If not, why the change?

Joe
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Posted Tue Jul 3, 2007, 5:52pm
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Heads up folks. As of July 1, the Silvia's price went up (again) to $595 MAP pricing. Through Amazon, there's a few left at $545, but they'll no doubt be gone soon - vendors are pretty quick to point out to the supplier any other vendor selling below MAP.

The new price is going to play a role in the forthcoming Detailed Review.

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Posted Wed Jul 4, 2007, 6:02pm
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I'm sure this's been considered, but i wasn't able to find any info on it:

In order to achieve better temp stability, instead of going through the trouble to PID the silvia, could you "just" install a better thermostat with a narrower deadband? Does a better thermostat exist, presumably, with a narrower deadband?

Or, how about relocating the thermostat to be closer to the heating element (are they lower on the boiler)?
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Posted Sat Jul 7, 2007, 7:58am
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I really like what you did with the video and think you should do that with all of the reviews.
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Posted Sat Jul 7, 2007, 8:23pm
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Just got mine last month at the lower price.  Beware of bad double baskets.  Apparently, a number of machines shipped with baskets that were less than 58 mm in diameter.  Call your supplier for a new one.

The video is great.  I was using the older RS temp surfing method and I'm not sure if it applies to the new machine.  I'm glad that you posted the video on your method for temp surfing.  It is much easier.

I know there are frothing videos on youtube, however it would be great to see your method.

Thanks!

Seasalt (chad)
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