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CrackAddict
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Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007, 4:42pm
Subject: Re: Ascaso Steel Duo Espresso Machine
 

I owned one of these machines a while ago (230V model "Steel") and while a nice design I was not happy with its overall performance. I gave it to a friend and got a Bezzera 99 (Pasquini Livia 90 clone) instead. While not a bad machine, I prefer caps and the steaming was weak. I also found it didn't have adequate pump pressure to produce a shot I liked - I had to back off on the grind or it just sat there and nothing came out the spout. BTW - the included pressure gauge vibrated so wildly in use it was illegible on the one I had. This company seems to make a large number of variations on the same platform. Mine was single boiler plus thermoblock. Their website (when I looked) was very difficult to navigate and compare. One minor problem with the machine was that the button for steam would stick leaving the machine in limbo - no pump and no steam. Pressing it repeatedly would eventually free it. I was at the friend's house recently and the Steel was not working. He hadn't used it much, but he had never cleaned it and the buildup on the screen was enough that even commercial (Illy) grind coffee couldn't be used - no output. A good clean and it worked again - but not well. Maybe the pump is weak or defective.
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atao
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2007, 10:14pm
Subject: Re: Ascaso Steel Duo Espresso Machine
 

Would be great to hear any new tidbits of info that are available for this machine. Brew temps? Temp stability? I hear that the thermocouple is actually inside the boiler, which i'd hope would lead to a narrower deadband.
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WelshDog
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Posted Wed Jul 4, 2007, 2:33pm
Subject: Re: Ascaso Steel Duo Espresso Machine
 

Any word on when the detailed review will be ready?  I borrowed an ancient and pathetic Oster Espresso machine from my Dad a month ago and now I'm ready to move up.  The new improved Silvia seems like a good choice, but this machine appeals to me as well.  I like the idea of a separate steaming thermoblock and pump.

Thanks!
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kevski
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Espresso: Ascaso Steel duo pm prof
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Posted Tue Oct 2, 2007, 7:02am
Subject: Re: Ascaso Steel Duo Espresso Machine
 

I have just acquired an Ascaso Steel Duo (duo pm prof)  - it differs slightly from the one reviewed here in that it has a much heavier chromed brass grouphead - which helps to keep the coffee warm. It's a beautiful machine - I use a Quick Mill for the grinds and after a couple of test runs - managed to make the best espressos I have tasted in some time - excellent cups with nice cremas and do this consistently each time!
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Posted Fri Nov 16, 2007, 10:16am
Subject: Re: Ascaso Steel Duo Espresso Machine
 

kevski Said:

I have just acquired an Ascaso Steel Duo (duo pm prof)  - it differs slightly from the one reviewed here in that it has a much heavier chromed brass grouphead - which helps to keep the coffee warm. It's a beautiful machine - I use a Quick Mill for the grinds and after a couple of test runs - managed to make the best espressos I have tasted in some time - excellent cups with nice cremas and do this consistently each time!

Posted October 2, 2007 link

What size tamper do you use?   I just ordered the Steel Duo pm prof, and would like to get a Reg Barber tamper - but want to be sure to get the right size.  The review says 57mm, even though Ascaso says 58 - but the Duo Prof has a bigger portafilter, yes?
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Posted Fri Nov 16, 2007, 10:27am
Subject: Re: Ascaso Steel Duo Espresso Machine
 

The Duo Prof has a 58mm portafilter!

 
Let's make the water turn black
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kevski
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Espresso: Ascaso Steel duo pm prof
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Posted Sun Nov 18, 2007, 2:22pm
Subject: Re: Ascaso Steel Duo Espresso Machine
 

Sorry about the delay in replying - I use a 57mm tamper and it works just fine. The plastic tamper supplied by Ascaso with the machine is also 57mm. The portafilter is indeed 58mm - but a 58mm tamper will be a tight squeeze!!
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iZappa
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Espresso: Isomac Millenium
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Posted Sun Nov 18, 2007, 2:44pm
Subject: Re: Ascaso Steel Duo Espresso Machine
 

kevski Said:

but a 58mm tamper will be a tight squeeze!!

Posted November 18, 2007 link

Hmm... that is not my experience with it. I have used three different 58mm tampers with this machine and they have all fitted perfectly. I dose to the rim of the basket though. A traditional italian dosing of 7 or 12-14 grams might be a tight squeeze since the basket narrows in towards the bottom.

 
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kevski
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Posted Sun Nov 18, 2007, 3:23pm
Subject: Re: Ascaso Steel Duo Espresso Machine
 

Thanks for that insight! I was supplied with a 57mm tamper when I purchased the machine and assumed it was the correct size. As I said, it does the job -  after I tap the side of the filter following the first press, the second press usually compacts any stray grinds.
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Posted Mon Nov 19, 2007, 5:05am
Subject: Re: Ascaso Steel Duo Espresso Machine
 

thanks kevski and iZappa.
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