Our Valued Sponsor
OpinionsConsumer ReviewsGuides and How TosCoffeeGeek ReviewsResourcesForums
Articles: Products First Look Feedback
Capresso MT500 Coffee Brewer
Support Coffee Kids
Coffee Kids is a non profit charity working with farming communities around the world. Donate today!
www.coffeekids.org
 
Not Logged in: Log In to Postlog in
New Topics updated topics   New Posts new posts   Unanswered Posts new unanswered  
Search Discussion Board search   Discussion Board FAQ faq   Signup sign up  
Discussions > Articles > First Looks... > Capresso MT500...  
view previous topic | view next topic | view all topics
showing page 1 of 3 last page next page
Author Messages
spence
Senior Member
spence
Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Posts: 103
Location: TivertonRI
Expertise: Intermediate

Posted Thu Aug 29, 2002, 1:49pm
Subject: MT500 seems just like the my Kitchen Tools
 

A few years ago I bought a (now discontinued) Kitchen Tools (made by Black & Decker and also sold in a Starbucks Version) coffee maker, and although it is made of white plastic, appears almost identical to the MT500 in price, function and performance (minus the charcoal filter).

The KT version includes a stainless insulated carafe (replacement cost of $80!) removable tank and I measured the brew temp at 202deg. Not too shabby...

Not bad for a hundred bucks on sale. 3 years old and still brewing fine, although I'll have to get a replacement filter at starbucks. The generic #4's don't fit...

-spence
The Kitchen Tools
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
MarkPrince
Moderator


Joined: 19 Dec 2001
Posts: 5,611
Location: Vancouver, BC
Expertise: Professional

Espresso: KvdW Speedster
Grinder: Versalab M3 Grinder
Vac Pot: A bit too many
Drip: Bonavita
Roaster: Hario Glass Retro Roaster
Posted Thu Aug 29, 2002, 3:09pm
Subject: Did KutchenTools make two brewers?
 

Did KitchenTools have two different design brewers? The only one I'm familiar with is this one

www.cooking.com/images/products/shprodde/138816v.jpg

which was a fairly decent brewer, but I think they aren't very close to each other, other than common features most brewers have.

Is there another brewer made by Kitchen Tools?
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
coffeebeing
Senior Member
coffeebeing
Joined: 22 Mar 2002
Posts: 335
Location: Long Island,New York
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Isomac Zaffiro,Silvia,...
Grinder: Mazzer Mini,Rocky,Solis...
Vac Pot: Yama,Cafetino,Silex
Drip: Cusinart Brew Central,...
Roaster: Cafe Rosto, Hearthware...
Posted Thu Aug 29, 2002, 7:01pm
Subject: Great Article..
 

Nice article Mark...Picture is excellent!

George W.
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
spence
Senior Member
spence
Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Posts: 103
Location: TivertonRI
Expertise: Intermediate

Posted Sat Aug 31, 2002, 6:53pm
Subject: kitchen tools
 

No, that's the one...As for close, I don't mean exactly in looks, but in performance. They do seem to have a similar design (layout wise)  though. Are you saying the MT500 is a *much* better performer?

-spence
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
soon2Bexpat
Senior Member


Joined: 22 Apr 2002
Posts: 5
Location: Buffalo NY
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: LaCimbali Jr, Saeco Sirius
Grinder: La Cimbali Jr, Breville
Drip: mnaual
Roaster: Precision
Posted Sun Sep 1, 2002, 2:28pm
Subject: stir?
 

Why stir before serving? Also, what does the 3-5 serving function actually do?
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
AtlantaAdMan
Senior Member


Joined: 24 Dec 2001
Posts: 18
Location: Atlanta
Expertise: Aficionado

Posted Mon Sep 2, 2002, 9:02am
Subject: Capresso Question
 

First off...great review!.....can't wait for the detailed one.

Now.....Since they OBVIOUSLY got the temp right on this one, have you had any experience with their other models.....specifically the CoffeeTeam LUXE?  On their website, they claim a brew of 200 and hold of 180.
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
MarkPrince
Moderator


Joined: 19 Dec 2001
Posts: 5,611
Location: Vancouver, BC
Expertise: Professional

Espresso: KvdW Speedster
Grinder: Versalab M3 Grinder
Vac Pot: A bit too many
Drip: Bonavita
Roaster: Hario Glass Retro Roaster
Posted Thu Sep 5, 2002, 12:39am
Subject: Stirring....
 

For a proper brew of drip coffee, you should always stir the pot once it's complete. The reason is simple - the richer, more intense stuff is usually drawn off between the first and fourth minute of a 10cup brew, then the weaker, less intense, more bitter stuff is drawn off. Also in the first thirty seconds or so as the the brew commences, the extraction is weak and sour.

The elements that make a cup of coffee, besides 98% water, are solids. These solids are kind of passive in the carafe... they tend to clump and not distribute. It doesn't take much to fully saturate the entire carafe with an equal portion of all the solids, but if you don't stir, even for a brief time, that first cup might be excessively weak, and definitely not indicative of what the pot is capable of giving you in the cup.
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
dcrehr
Senior Member


Joined: 14 Feb 2002
Posts: 5
Location: Los Angeles
Expertise: Intermediate

Posted Sat Sep 7, 2002, 7:20am
Subject: Multi-capacity brewers needed
 

Mark, your comments on the qualities of the 3-5 cup cycle of this brewer are not surprising.  When will the coffee engineers come up with a brewer that makes a small pot of equal quality to large pot?  What does it take?  Perhaps a switch to alter timing of the water flow plus different shaped filters for different size pots.
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
MarkPrince
Moderator


Joined: 19 Dec 2001
Posts: 5,611
Location: Vancouver, BC
Expertise: Professional

Espresso: KvdW Speedster
Grinder: Versalab M3 Grinder
Vac Pot: A bit too many
Drip: Bonavita
Roaster: Hario Glass Retro Roaster
Posted Wed Sep 11, 2002, 4:40pm
Subject: Smaller capacities
 

From everything I know about coffee brewing and extraction (which is a bit, but certainly not everything), I draw two conclusions on the act of brewing drip:

  1. The temperature must be above 190F

  2. The grounds must be completely saturated as early as possible.

I think a 10, 12 cup brewer will have no problems brewing smaller amounts if the engineers of these products design two things right - first where the water drips down into the filter are - it needs to be dispersed early on - showered over the bed of coffee. I note that the Kitchentools / Starbucks Barista brewer offers this. Unfortunately, I've been told by people who have measured the filter basket temp on that brewer with a bead probe it barely touches 190F in there, at peak (usually it's under 180F for the first minute or two).

Second, some kind of fancy (or maybe not so fancy - just simple mechanical) device needs to be incorportated where the DRIP portion into the carafe is restricted with lower water volumes. In other words, if the flow rate is 10ml per second for a full 12 cup brew, it should be 5ml/second for a 6 cup brew.

Currently, the only real thing these "special setting for 5 cups!" brewers do is slow down the water flow into the basket. No attempt at slowing the water flow into the carafe is made, AFAIK.

Mind you, they do achieve slightly slower flow into the carafe because of weight and gravity - less liquid in the filter=less flow. But it's not much of a difference.
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
x
Senior Member


Joined: 29 Sep 2002
Posts: 322
Location: x
Expertise: I love coffee

Posted Sun Sep 29, 2002, 4:31pm
Subject: MT500
 

I purchased this machine about a month ago a a local retail store.  The construction quality looked good.  I ran several pots of water thru it and then loaded it up with coffee. Tje carafe was more than warm from the previous cycles.  The coffee was quite tasty but was not very hot at the end of the brewing cycle and only luke warm 1/2 hour later.  I tried using it daily for about a week diligently preheating the carafe prior to brewing and the coffee just was not hot!  I did not preform the detailed temperature tests I see others preform,  a quick read therometer showed 160 in the pot after brewing cycle.  Not good enough for me.  Did I get a bad unit?  I wanted to like this brewer but took it back.
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
showing page 1 of 3 last page next page
view previous topic | view next topic | view all topics
Discussions > Articles > First Looks... > Capresso MT500...  
New Topics updated topics   New Posts new posts   Unanswered Posts new unanswered     Search Discussion Board search   Discussion Board FAQ faq   Signup sign up  
Not Logged in: Log In to Postlog in
Discussions Quick Jump:
Symbols: New Posts= New Posts since your last visit      No New Posts= No New Posts since last visit     Go to most recent post= Newest post
Forum Rules:
No profanity, illegal acts or personal attacks will be tolerated in these discussion boards.
No commercial posting of any nature will be tolerated; only private sales by private individuals, in the "Buy and Sell" forum.
No SEO style postings will be tolerated. SEO related posts will result in immediate ban from CoffeeGeek.
No cross posting allowed - do not post your topic to more than one forum, nor repost a topic to the same forum.
Who Can Read The Forum? Anyone can read posts in these discussion boards.
Who Can Post New Topics? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post new topics.
Who Can Post Replies? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post replies.
Can Photos be posted? Anyone can post photos in their new topics or replies.
Who can change or delete posts? Any CoffeeGeek member can edit their own posts. Only moderators can delete posts.
Probationary Period: If you are a new signup for CoffeeGeek, you cannot promote, endorse, criticise or otherwise post an unsolicited endorsement for any company, product or service in your first five postings.
Stefano's Espresso Care
Repair - Parts - Sales
Factory Authorized &
Trained Technician
www.espressocare.com
Home | Opinions | Consumer Reviews | Guides & How Tos | CoffeeGeek Reviews | Resources | Forums | Contact Us
CoffeeGeek.com, CoffeeGeek, and Coffee Geek, along with all associated content & images are copyright ©2000-2014 by Mark Prince, all rights reserved, unless otherwise indicated. Content, code, and images may not be reused without permission. Usage of this website signifies agreement with our Terms and Conditions. (0.218634843826)
Privacy Policy | Copyright Info | Terms and Conditions | CoffeeGeek Advertisers | RSS | Find us on Google+