MarkPrince Moderator Joined: 19 Dec 2001 Posts: 5,631 Location: Vancouver, BC Expertise: Professional
Espresso: KvdW Speedster Grinder: Versalab M3 Grinder Vac Pot: A bit too many Drip: Bonavita Roaster: Hario Glass Retro Roaster
Posted Fri May 16, 2014, 3:26pm Subject: Re: Orphan Espresso & the Lido 2 Grinder - SCAA 2014 Show Report, Road Reports
Been using the Lido 2 for a few weeks now, still constantly impressed at the build quality and the grind quality. It does take a while to crank out the goods. I find I've been reaching for it when trying new and different coffees and doing 28g or less volume of coffee grounds; I still use the Baratza Vario-W for volumes of 35g or more.
I have noticed a lot of chaff and particles end up in the little sleeve area at the bottom of the bean hopper chamber, where it flares out and marries to the metal midsection. I wonder if Doug, in future, can avoid this (purely aesthetic thing short term, but long term could lead to minor rancidity odor problems) by perhaps engineering in a silicone o-ring or some other squeezable barrier at the top of that sleeve flare out area. I'll post a photo to show what I mean.
jbviau Senior Member Joined: 12 Jul 2010 Posts: 742 Location: Pembroke Pines, FL Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: Preciso / LIDOs Drip: Trifecta MB / Eva Solo...
Posted Fri May 16, 2014, 5:34pm Subject: Re: Orphan Espresso & the Lido 2 Grinder - SCAA 2014 Show Report, Road Reports
Glad to hear it, Mark. The o-ring idea has been discussed elsewhere; someone should experiment with it. As a fellow tidy person and heavy LIDO 2 user, I've learned to live with the specks. You can blow most of them out using a Giottos Rocket Air blaster (or similar). You can also fully disassemble for cleaning as long as you're willing to pay attention during reassembly, as discussed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npVWLJnBcAs&list=UUX6i4fTaP1FHA5cUOdADfFQ
Posted Fri May 16, 2014, 8:21pm Subject: Re: Orphan Espresso & the Lido 2 Grinder - SCAA 2014 Show Report, Road Reports
I'm a big fan of OE hand grinders; just got an early Lido2 to keep company with my Lido1's. Other than the Pharos I hate their knob choices, but that's something that can be changed thankfully.
Lido hand grinders are not going to hurt Baratza's business but they are competition in sales. Helping OE with solid designers and suppliers saved them a lot of money and heartaches. How many people in business would help a competitor get a "leg up"? Kudos to Kyle Anderson!
gtj Senior Member Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 7 Location: Dublin Expertise: I live coffee
Posted Sun May 18, 2014, 5:38am Subject: Re: Orphan Espresso & the Lido 2 Grinder - SCAA 2014 Show Report, Road Reports
Been using the Lido 2 for a few weeks now, still constantly impressed at the build quality and the grind quality. It does take a while to crank out the goods. I find I've been reaching for it when trying new and different coffees and doing 28g or less volume of coffee grounds; I still use the Baratza Vario-W for volumes of 35g or more
Nilate Senior Member Joined: 26 Aug 2014 Posts: 2 Location: Cedar Falls, IA Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Mr. Coffee ECMP50 Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Precisco v1...
Posted Mon Oct 27, 2014, 7:04pm Subject: Re: Orphan Espresso & the Lido 2 Grinder - SCAA 2014 Show Report, Road Reports
I really enjoyed reading this heartwarming review.
I learned for the first time about Orphan Espresso and the Garrotts. I'm impressed by their dedication to the advancement of the industry and their craft, and their willingness to provide technologies to others in the business - while expecting nothing in return!
It's no wonder Kyle of Baratza works well with this couple. It's stories like this that give me hope for solving issues in other sectors and life issues.
This gets me thinking about using a manual grinder during my business trips and other outings. The chaff issue could be an annoyance, but that's definitely a minor issue if the grind quality and durability prove to earn high marks.
Also, owning something that is built solid enough that it could potentially be an heirloom - that's cool!
Edit: This is a beautifully-crafted grinder. The photos just scream quality and attention to detail.
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