Posted Tue May 10, 2011, 10:28am Subject: Re: Weight Based Grinding Becomes Reality: Baratza's New Thing (Exclusive)
After spending the better part of a year weighing out beans for each shot, I can see the merit in terms of consistency. After two days with a grinder that spits out a pre-measured amount based on a timer right into my portafilter, I would not want to go back to my scale and funnel.
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
scrounge Senior Member Joined: 23 Mar 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Ohio Expertise: I love coffee
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Posted Wed May 11, 2011, 9:23pm Subject: Re: Weight Based Grinding Becomes Reality: Baratza's New Thing (Exclusive)
I so want one of these! I get the point that it's nothing that a separate scale can't do, with the additional benefit of using a portafilter. But I don't want to have to continually mess with it and drag out another gadget. And let's just say that the tolerance for yet another item out on the countertop by a certain influential member of the household is non-existent.
Plus the ease of switching beans and not having to recalibrate the timer function on a Vario is mighty appealing. I don't know if I can afford a Vario-E just yet, but I love this idea.
Maybe the 2nd gen model will include the timer functionality and the portafilter holder for those that desire it.
glashoppah Senior Member Joined: 2 Jan 2003 Posts: 95 Location: Ramona Expertise: Advanced
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Posted Sat May 28, 2011, 11:48am Subject: Re: Weight Based Grinding Becomes Reality: Baratza's New Thing (Exclusive)
Forgive me if I don't quite get how this thing works after reading the article. It seems like the entire grinder, with powercord, sits on the scale, and then the scale is "tared" to zero. Then you fill the hopper and grind and it figures out how much you ground. I hope that isn't right. If it is, then it can't work because the before-and-after weight should be the same. The only way it could work (if I understand this correctly) is if you tare it with the grinder empty and then drop beans into the hopper until you're as close as you can be to the weight you want, then grind into the bin. This of course wouldn't take into account beans that stuck in the top of the grinding mechanism or ground coffee that didn't make it out into the bin, hence the +/- error.
Tell me if this is correct, and if not, what I missed.
Intrepid510 Senior Member Joined: 30 Dec 2010 Posts: 302 Location: California Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Sat May 28, 2011, 3:12pm Subject: Re: Weight Based Grinding Becomes Reality: Baratza's New Thing (Exclusive)
glashoppah Said:
Forgive me if I don't quite get how this thing works after reading the article. It seems like the entire grinder, with powercord, sits on the scale, and then the scale is "tared" to zero. Then you fill the hopper and grind and it figures out how much you ground. I hope that isn't right. If it is, then it can't work because the before-and-after weight should be the same. The only way it could work (if I understand this correctly) is if you tare it with the grinder empty and then drop beans into the hopper until you're as close as you can be to the weight you want, then grind into the bin. This of course wouldn't take into account beans that stuck in the top of the grinding mechanism or ground coffee that didn't make it out into the bin, hence the +/- error.
Tell me if this is correct, and if not, what I missed.
From some of the videos that I have seen of it, the grinder slides into the device and there is a weighing piece the slides into the bin area and the escatto comes with a new bin that is smaller than the stock bin, which sits perfectly on top of the weighing piece.
This video from Seattle Coffee does a pretty good job of explaining it.
In the article, I explained why that was pretty much impossible without completely retooling the grinder top to bottom. Impossible with this design and the Esato; too expensive (for now) with the Vario-E.
coffeehorse Senior Member Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 14 Location: Sydney, Australia Expertise: I live coffee
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Posted Sat Jul 9, 2011, 8:49am Subject: Re: Weight Based Grinding Becomes Reality: Baratza's New Thing
mcKoffee Said:
Waste isn't just measured in beans but also time. These could be a REAL time saver for a busy pour bar. Especially if offering multiple size pour over cups of multiple beans. One grinder for each bean offered, each grinder with presets for the different size cups selectable on the fly. Sweet. Major time saver. Potentially equals both increased customer satisfaction through faster service and labor savings in the long run.
The problem is that you just go from changing the problem from pre-weighing the shot to having to change out the full hopper. Not a massive benefit for some, I'm sure.
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