Kaffeeliebhaber Senior Member Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 21 Location: St. Louis, MO Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: baratza vario Drip: Technivorm KBT 741 Roaster: skillet
Posted Thu Apr 28, 2011, 10:48am Subject: Re: Weight Based Grinding Becomes Reality: Baratza's New Thing (Exclusive)
I agree withone of the posts...,esp RGBI.
I think its a novel idea, especially for those on the run and in a hurry.
However, the scale mechanism is one more thing that can break on the grinder. I'm all about "KISS", keep it simple stupid. I prefer having a separate scale.
If I do decide to purchase one, i'll wait for the 2nd or 3rd generation version to come out.
Jakeperfecto Senior Member Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Posts: 2 Location: kitchen Expertise: Pro Barista
Espresso: Rancilio Silvia Grinder: Baratza Vario Vac Pot: rubber seal clamp Drip: not for me Roaster: locally fresh
Posted Fri Apr 29, 2011, 7:13pm Subject: Re: Weight Based Grinding Becomes Reality: Baratza's New Thing (Exclusive)
When I mentioned, "If it's not broke don't fix it" it was defenitely the espresso only view. The fact is the Vario timer is the best ever for my situation. Besides cutting a yogurt container to trap all grounds in the portifilter I feel like I have the best grinder for strictly espresso.
mcKoffee Senior Member Joined: 29 Dec 2001 Posts: 854 Location: Vancouver WA USA Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: VBM DD, Bricoletta, Audrey,... Grinder: Major,SJ, Rocky,... Vac Pot: Gold Royal Balance Drip: When it rains...Aero,... Roaster: USRC3k,CCR HT, Behmor, Cafe...
Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011, 8:44am Subject: Re: Weight Based Grinding Becomes Reality: Baratza's New Thing
Waste isn't just measured in beans but also time. These could be a REAL time saver for a busy pour bar. Especially if offering multiple size pour over cups of multiple beans. One grinder for each bean offered, each grinder with presets for the different size cups selectable on the fly. Sweet. Major time saver. Potentially equals both increased customer satisfaction through faster service and labor savings in the long run.
AldoCoffee Said:
Mark, You lost us on the point about waste in a cafe setting. Every shop I've been to that does single cup brewing well premeasures doses and runs them through a Guatemala or Ditting or similar grinder. There's no waste above whatever it takes to dial in a particular coffee to determine the correct dose. And you can run any coffee at any time during service as long as you have it pre-dosed (which is simple to do). So we're not getting the point on savings. Are we missing something here?
schomin Senior Member Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 1 Location: TX Expertise: I live coffee
Posted Tue May 3, 2011, 7:02pm Subject: Re: Weight Based Grinding Becomes Reality: Baratza's New Thing (Exclusive)
Not sure if anyone has said this before or even cares, but...
I have a Baratza Starbucks Barista grinder and wanted to know if it worked with the Essato attachment since it has the body of a Maestro Plus but doesn't have the timer.
I emailed Baratza today and got confirmation that the Essato will indeed work with the Barista. Great news.
CrayonShinchan Senior Member Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 109 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Izzo Alex Duetto II Grinder: B. Maestro & Vario, Peugeot... Vac Pot: Cona D, Yama Drip: Chemex, V60, Kone,...
Posted Mon May 9, 2011, 4:48pm Subject: Re: Weight Based Grinding Becomes Reality: Baratza's New Thing (Exclusive)
This sounds like an awesome idea and product. Lots of negative comments but how can you judge something before it even hits the shelves and gets put to use? So many skeptics out there. You guys should just be happy people like Kyle is trying to come up with things to improve the industry. This doesn't seem like a gimmick to me, it sounds like a foundation for how things should be.
MarkPrince Moderator Joined: 19 Dec 2001 Posts: 5,462 Location: Vancouver, BC Expertise: Professional
Espresso: KvdW Speedster Grinder: Compak K10 WBC Vac Pot: A bit too many Drip: Clive Coffee Drip Stand Roaster: Hario Glass Retro Roaster
Posted Mon May 9, 2011, 6:04pm Subject: Re: Weight Based Grinding Becomes Reality: Baratza's New Thing (Exclusive)
We are nothing on enthusiast forums if we aren't playing armchair quarterback from time to time. We've all done it, myself included. Though I do try these days to reserve critical comments unless I've actually tried something.
Posted Tue May 10, 2011, 9:11am Subject: Re: Weight Based Grinding Becomes Reality: Baratza's New Thing (Exclusive)
MarkPrince Said:
We are nothing on enthusiast forums if we aren't playing armchair quarterback from time to time. We've all done it, myself included. Though I do try these days to reserve critical comments unless I've actually tried something.
I'm not sure that there is any criticism of these products per se which, after all, as you say I for one have not tried. How ever I do feel quite strongly that when you introduce a new idea you have to convince the consumer that this is something he or she needs. From the way I brew coffee ie weighing the beans prior to grinding I am somewhat sceptical about the usefulness of this product for me personally.
I would certainly love to try this product. Maybe I am indeed missing something. Unfortunately this is a catch 22 situation in that I have to buy the product to find this out and before I'm going to do that I have to be sold on the product in the first place.
Perhaps it's just not aimed at me or people like me but I don't feel that this any criticism of the product nor, for that matter, do I see my view as negative. Just because someone doesn't have a use for something doesn't mean it isn't a great product for someone else.
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