javaseeker Senior Member Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 138 Location: Chicagoland Expertise: Just starting
Espresso: Barista Grinder: Anfim Milano Drip: Krups Moka Brew
Posted Fri Dec 29, 2006, 1:14am Subject: Re: Editor's Choice Awards 2006 - Espresso by Mark Prince
I noticed the Bodum Pavina glasses made the list. One review I saw online said they were fragile; another mentioned a flaw that allowed espresso to get between the glass walls. How sturdy or fragile are these? Would they be safe in a house without kids, or with klutzy adults?
Posted Fri Dec 29, 2006, 11:04am Subject: Re: Editor's Choice Awards 2006 - Espresso by Mark Prince
The Pavinas are not as fragile as a wine glass, but not a lot more. I don't recommend them to klutzy adults. The Nuova Point line of cups would be a much better choice. I've seen a couple of the Pavinas with pinholes where the glass was blown; a friend of mine made the mistake of immersing it while washing and now he has a "fishbowl" effect. I don't know how common the defect is (and I'm not willing to test mine).
MarkPrince Moderator Joined: 19 Dec 2001 Posts: 5,462 Location: Vancouver, BC Expertise: Professional
Espresso: KvdW Speedster Grinder: Compak K10 WBC Vac Pot: A bit too many Drip: Clive Coffee Drip Stand Roaster: Hario Glass Retro Roaster
Posted Fri Dec 29, 2006, 11:50am Subject: Re: Editor's Choice Awards 2006 - Espresso by Mark Prince
Pavinas that aren't completely sealed would be considered defective by Bodum, and candidates for warranty replacement.
I have not run into a situation yet where any Pavinas I have (6 espresso, 4 (gone and broken) 8oz sizes) were not sealed - I run them through the dishwasher.
soliant Senior Member Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Posts: 27 Location: Chitown Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Sat Dec 30, 2006, 10:30am Subject: Re: Editor's Choice Awards 2006 - Espresso by Mark Prince
Thanks for the Editor's Choice Awards, I feel that it can be of great help to someone trying to figure out what to buy, which can be overwhelming at times.
I was lucky to have picked Kid-O blend from intelligentsia as one of the first blends I was experimenting with. From time to time I try different blends, but end up back to Kid-O (I love this stuff)
I will definitely be using this 06 award list when I go to upgrade, thanks again.
Posted Sat Dec 30, 2006, 11:18am Subject: Re: Editor's Choice Awards 2006 - Espresso by Mark Prince
MarkPrince Said:
Pavinas that aren't completely sealed would be considered defective by Bodum, and candidates for warranty replacement.
I have not run into a situation yet where any Pavinas I have (6 espresso, 4 (gone and broken) 8oz sizes) were not sealed - I run them through the dishwasher.
My wife (tea) and I (coffee) have used almost nothing but Pavinas (in three sizes!) for the past year. No holes or other flaws. No breakage. We have retired all our mugs and recommend Pavinas to all our friends.
Marshall "got 4 more Pavinas as Christmas presents from thoughtful in-laws"
CGP4 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 32 Location: NYC Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Fri Mar 9, 2007, 8:39am Subject: Re: Editor's Choice Awards 2006 - Espresso by Mark Prince
Mark-
This is too late to matter anymore, but I was curious about your comment in the Best Budget Espresso Grinder category that there's no runner up. I know you're making a point, and it's a "call to arms" of sorts, but I wondered how you felt about the Gaggia MDF grinder. For the same $200 or so as the Virtuoso, it seems like a viable alternative...
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