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icecoffee
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Posted Thu Jan 25, 2007, 7:41pm
Subject: Re: Espresso Advice - From One Steel Guy to Another, The Cafe Stage
 

Len,

I am a newbie to expresso equipment. Your story was fun but the set-up recommendations were what I have been looking for.
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Posted Fri Jan 26, 2007, 6:04am
Subject: Re: Espresso Advice - From One Steel Guy to Another, The Cafe Stage
 

Brad,

I see that you have had your "new" Expobar for a couple of days now. Woo hoo!!

Charles,

First, let me say: WELCOME to Coffee Geek forums and that I am glad that my article was of some service to you.

Len

 
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Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007, 10:40pm
Subject: Re: Espresso Advice - From One Steel Guy to Another, The Cafe Stage
 

Len,

i havent found another article yet that breaks down the elements of choosing a machine that was this helpful! and simple!
I am new to CG and i have found this and other forums to be helpful in my quest but you really nailed it and it wasn't overstuffed with technical jargon.

i am considering some of the very machines you suggested and some i had not heard of.

thanks
tiff
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Posted Tue Feb 20, 2007, 10:21am
Subject: Re: Espresso Advice - From One Steel Guy to Another, The Cafe Stage
 

Tiff,

Frist, let me say: WELCOME to Coffee Geek!

Thank you for your most kind comments. I have found a lot of helpful folk in here and a lot of good information.

Len

 
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Posted Wed Feb 28, 2007, 7:17pm
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Those Hungarian genes go a long way, even if you missin a Z in your name. Kudos from a first generation import, you will also make Chris Nachtrieb proud. He deserves it, no regrets 5 years later with my Isomac Millennium. Parts, service, advice on phones and email, patient and friendly staff make Chris's Coffee a special business. No connection here, i live in Ohio and ordered my machine on the internet.
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Posted Thu Mar 1, 2007, 3:44am
Subject: Re: Espresso Advice - From One Steel Guy to Another, The Cafe Stage
 

bobpaule Said:

Those Hungarian genes go a long way, even if you missin a Z in your name. Kudos from a first generation import, you will also make Chris Nachtrieb proud. He deserves it, no regrets 5 years later with my Isomac Millennium. Parts, service, advice on phones and email, patient and friendly staff make Chris's Coffee a special business. No connection here, i live in Ohio and ordered my machine on the internet.

Posted February 28, 2007 link

Bob,

You are mistaken about me...well, partly. There was never a "z" following the "S" in my name as my Dad's parents both were ethnic Slovak form Presov, Slovak Republic (OK, it was Czechoslovakia when they left). However, I am 1/2 Magyar on my Mom's side. Both of her folks were ethnic Hungarians from Satu Mare, Romania.

So, you are a first generation import. Cool! Are you form Budapest or ?? I have been dozens of times to Hungary mostly to Budapest but a couple of times to Tápiószele, Miskolz, Lake Balaton and a couple of other places.

My lovely wife (of 32 years) is 1/2 Slovak + German and Irish - but she makes one mean goulash and pakrikas.

Len

PS: Where is Isolation, Ohio? Mapquest does not ackowledge its existence.

 
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Posted Mon Mar 12, 2007, 9:54am
Subject: Re: Espresso Advice - From One Steel Guy to Another, The Cafe Stage
 

Nice post.  It hits all the important points.

I wish there was a way to convert the Quickmill Anita to an "almost direct" water source with something like a FlowJet.

A FLOJet type unit drawing from bottled water with a float switch to start/stop the water flowing into the water reservoir would be very cool.

Anyone ever see anything like that?
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Posted Tue Mar 13, 2007, 7:35am
Subject: Re: Espresso Advice - From One Steel Guy to Another, The Cafe Stage
 

fjm Said:

I wish there was a way to convert the Quickmill Anita to an "almost direct" water source with something like a FlowJet.

A FLOJet type unit drawing from bottled water with a float switch to start/stop the water flowing into the water reservoir would be very cool.

Anyone ever see anything like that?

Posted March 12, 2007 link

Frank,

Let me first say: WELCOME to Coffee Geek and thank you for your kind words.

Regarding the bottled water with floatswitch & pump (FloJet type) I wonder why you and so many others are interested in this. It IS possible to use an external reservoir adjacent to the machine with just the ULKA pump that is in the machine. I use just such a set-up (see picture below). This has the advantages of:
  • being able to see the water level from across the room
  • being able to easily re-fill the reservoir since only it needs to be pulled out from under the overhead cabinets
  • most importantly keeping the reservoir water temperature at ambient instead of elevated by proximity to the boiler as in an internal reservoir set-up.

The separate float switch and pump are needed in a FloJet system because the water supply is too far from the reservoir (usually underneath on another counter/shelf) and the machine's internal pump is too tiny to handle the head. With the reservoir sitting next to the machine it may be possible to route the water line without adding any length to it.

Len

Worldman: Water tank 1 - mod.jpg
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Posted Wed Mar 21, 2007, 8:22am
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Len,

Do you still have the second hose draining into the internal reservoir?  Did you have to add an extra length of hose to get to the new reservoir or does the stock tubing reach?  Lastly, did you just drill a hole to run the hose through out the back?

bc

 
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Posted Fri Mar 23, 2007, 3:47am
Subject: Re: Espresso Advice - From One Steel Guy to Another, The Cafe Stage
 

DigMe Said:

Len,

Do you still have the second hose draining into the internal reservoir?  Did you have to add an extra length of hose to get to the new reservoir or does the stock tubing reach?  Lastly, did you just drill a hole to run the hose through out the back?

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bc,

The 2nd hose (from the OPV) is routed to drain into the drip tray. Of course, this requires the drip tray to be emptied a bit sooner but is not too much of a problem. Also, keep in mind that the OPV is located just behind the drip tray on the right side of the machine. Ergo, the length of tubing is quite short (perhaps 4"). I "secure" it to the downtube off the E61 GH with some wire but have it offset (i.e. not touching) the downtube by ~1/4" so as not to roast the plastic tubing. So the only hose going into the water reservoir is the machine's water supply tubing. For this, I drilled a hole into the top of the tupperware lid as shown in the picture below and the original hole on the upper side of the reservoir is just left as was as dictates the maximum fill level.

For the water from the reservoir to the machine, my machine came form the seller prepared for direct plumb-in so he drilled the hole (with fittings at the machine housing) for the tubing.  

Len

Worldman: Water tank 3 - mod.jpg
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